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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop
I suppose if they you had vegan bodybuilder (Y) and omnivore bodybuilder (A), and they had the same protein & calorie intake & exercise... yeah, they may be able to put on muscle at a similar rate.
I do know that protein dense, lean meat (tuna, chicken breast) does require the body to burn calories to process it. I don't know if a protein dense vegetarian meal would have the same effect. And, although people often say that beans & rice is a great source of protein, would the vegetarian have to use more variety of grains to have the same effects on the body?
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I don't think that vegetarians would need to use more grains besides rice (with beans) to acquire the protein for putting on muscle mass, but variety is usually a good idea in any diet. As for the calories needed to process a meat meal vs. a protein dense vegetarian meal, I don't know which takes more. I have read that meat takes a longer time to digest than vegetarian protein sources.
Thanks for replying! I didn't know if you were still reading the thread.
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Originally Posted by Pedestrian
I've recently heard that (and forgive my complete and utter lack of resources for this information, but it's the idea I wanted to bring up) scientists have been using animal stem cells to grow muscle independent of an animal for use as meat product.
Basically, what's the general feeling about eating grown meat, and is this a foreseeable to combat animal cruelty?
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Eating meat tissue culture would reduce the number of animals harmed by people and so would be the more ethical choice in my opinion, Pedestrian, but not the *most* ethical choice.
I agree with Tore, though, that culturing meat tissue is very expensive and will never satisfy many people's habit of eating flesh, since they just wouldn't want to (or couldn't) pay that much money.
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Originally Posted by Mykonos
Have meat levels in diets been discussed yet? Throughout most of history the average human has had a mostly carbohydrate-based diet with only very small amounts of meat that weren't taken daily. It's only in recent years that meat consumption has shot up, and not only is it making people fatter, but it's damaging the planet and making energy gains far less efficient. I'm not saying eating meat is bad, but there's certainly too much being eaten.
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Agreed and agreed. And meat-consumption is increasing worldwide as people (especially in China) rise out of poverty. Eventually, I predict the ballooning human population will cause the competition between people and livestock for grains to become so great that most people won't be able to consume as many animals as they do now. Roadkill and animals who die of natural causes might start looking tastier and tastier to meat-eaters!
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
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Almost exactly what I was thinking.
As long as the humans died of natural causes, I shouldn't see why eating people (who are animals, after all) would be an ethical concern, as long as the deceased didn't state emphatically before death, "I don't want any person to eat me!"