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Originally Posted by Molecules
surely a chord or bunch of notes is either dissonance or it isn't? At what point do two notes become dissonant with eachother? Or does it differ from person to person?
that Derek Bailey guy, he looked as if he had planned out this de-tuned opus for the first few minutes... but if you couldn't see him playing you'd just assume it was a novice messing around blissfully unaware of how awful he sounded... and i'm sure he's making a big point about what we consider music and how great dissonance is, but that just doesn't appeal to me, it's all been done to death and i couldn't sit there with a straight face.
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There's really no way to truly tell, to some people what might seem dissonant can seem quite lovely to another person. The definitions I posted just came out of my Music Appreciation book along with the two examples I posted. Generally though if the tones create a feeling of unease and tension it's safe to call them dissonant.