Tool - 10,000 Days (lyrics, metal, mp3, single, albums)

Ace · 12-17-2007, 07:01 PM

I knew you'd post something in response to that, Ethan. My question is, since you've obviously had some kind of inner dislike for me over the past few days, (since I commented right-track about you and others bashing forum members), when are you going to take your head out of your arse? However, if you'd like to argue out the topic for the sake of talking music, be my guest. I do find it ironic that I said to myself, "Ethan will probably make a comment on my last post", and you actually doing it 10 minutes later....

**sleepy jack** · 12-17-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace

I knew you'd post something in response to that, Ethan. My question is, since you've obviously had some kind of inner dislike for me over the past few days, (since I commented right-track about you and others bashing forum members), when are you going to take your head out of your arse?

I believe I made a perfectly valid point on the lyrics and music, one which you didn't even bother to reply to. But thank you for being so mature as to not get personal with this.

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However, if you'd like to argue out the topic for the sake of talking music, be my guest.

That's kind of what I'm doing, hence why I replied talking about the song.

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I do find it ironic that I said to myself, "Ethan will probably make a comment on my last post", and you actually doing it 10 minutes later....

And finally, how is that irony?

Back to the subject on hand...The lyrics are banal, comparing man to monkey is extremely cliche. Maynard isn't a good lyricist, Tool fanboys go on and on about how he's amazing but he's really not, he's completely average, that song is no exception. I can think of several songs about war that are way better written then that. Your Revolution is a Joke is a fairly recent one by a mediocre band (Funeral for a Friend) and even THEY do better.

Ace · 12-17-2007, 07:20 PM

My point is....you've had somewhat snide comments towards me for the past few days, coincidence they may be, but rather unlikely. And if memory serves me correct, you have never liked Tool to begin with. Comparing men to monkeys is a good metaphor in my opinion, since alot of them have about as much sense. "Give them thumbs, they make a club and beat their brother down." How is simply coming into a thread and saying, "filler is filler", making a valid comment on the music? It has no productive criticism in it at all, though I like your latter post better. My main point, I hate the entire genre of rap, yet you don't see me up and down the threads voicing my opinion on how much they truly suck donkey ass. And while it may not be a fact, I really don't know, but you once voiced your dislike for Tool. So if you don't like the band, don't come in a thread devoted to the band simply to say, "its filler." It was ironic, because you have the tendency to randomly post your loathing for all bands not in your top 20 list. I am not taking personal stabs at you at all, I'm just sayin'.

~~Gates_of_Iscariot~~ · 12-17-2007, 07:29 PM

exsqueeze me but 2001 did it better

**sleepy jack** · 12-17-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace

My point is....you've had somewhat snide comments towards me for the past few days, coincidence they may be, but rather unlikely. And if memory serves me correct, you have never liked Tool to begin with.

Your point? Lyrics don't save a song, it doesn't take a fan to realize that. When someone calls something filler you can go on about it being unique and fans liking it or whatever that's valid, going "it has good lyrics!11" doesn't change anything, especially when the lyrics really aren't taht good.

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Comparing men to monkeys is a good metaphor in my opinion, since alot of them have about as much sense. "Give them thumbs, they make a club and beat their brother down."

Comparing men to monkeys maybe have been clever in the 60s, but after 50 years I'd like to think we've advanced beyond metaphors that have been rehashed since evolution was theorized. It's overdone, it's been used before, it's cliche. As for that line, pointless expansion on the monkey point. Plus we know monkey have thumbs so...

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How is simply coming into a thread and saying, "filler is filler", making a valid comment on the music? It has no productive criticism in it at all, though I like your latter post better.

Well it seems to be a point you failed to grasp and also failed to really counter. See my first point.

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My main point, I hate the entire genre of rap, yet you don't see me up and down the threads voicing my opinion on how much they truly suck donkey ass. And while it may not be a fact, I don't know, you once voiced your dislike for Tool. So if you don't like the band, don't come in a thread devoted to the band simply to say, "its filler."

Did someone's feelings get hurt because I pissed on the sacred nu-metal cow that is Tool? It's a music forum, people state their opinions. Mine filler comment wasn't even that negative, I like bands and I am perfectly aware plenty of them have filler songs does it make me think any less of them? No.

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It was ironic, because you have the tendency to randomly post your loathing for all bands not in your top 20 list. I am not taking personal stabs at you at all, I'm just sayin'.

That's not irony, that's being consistent. Also that statement is invalid seeing as I like more than 20 artists, much much more than 20 and I don't bash those that don't make the top 20 list.

Fal · 12-17-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace

It was ironic, because you have the tendency to randomly post your loathing for all bands not in your top 20 list. I am not taking personal stabs at you at all, I'm just sayin'.

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Ace · 12-17-2007, 07:39 PM

As appalling as it may seem to you, all lyrics aren't going to be 5 page long sonnets or worthy of Shakespeare. But I do respect your opinion on the work, yet I stand by my point that your first post saying "filler is filler", held absolutely no productive criticism. And you can't deny that you don't advertise your apparent dislike for certain bands. (like right now).
That is human and normal, but as I said before, there is no reason to post on a band you do not like and call some of their work filler, without atleast explaining why you feel that way. Something you did not do in your first post, making it seem like you think the band is inferior because it's not your cup of tea. Your top 20 was a metaphor, which I'm sure you could figure out, and I'm sure it got my point across. And if you'd prefer to be known as consistant in noticeably thinking bands you don't like = crapola, that's your choice. Personally, arguing with anyone who doesn't like a band that I like, as long as the argument has valid points on both ends, is an enjoyable experience.

EDIT: Since you aren't talking about Tool, Fal, why are you even posting? Just wondering.

Fal · 12-17-2007, 07:44 PM

Because it's hilarious watching you make a jack ass out of yourself. The top 20 was figurative, not metaphorical.

Ace · 12-17-2007, 07:46 PM

Are you sure it's not you doing that?

Ace · 12-17-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gates_of_Iscariot

exsqueeze me but 2001 did it better

I agree with that. I enjoy Lateralus more than any of their other albums.

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12-17-2007, 07:01 PM
Ace Negative Creep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 647	I knew you'd post something in response to that, Ethan. My question is, since you've obviously had some kind of inner dislike for me over the past few days, (since I commented right-track about you and others bashing forum members), when are you going to take your head out of your arse? However, if you'd like to argue out the topic for the sake of talking music, be my guest. I do find it ironic that I said to myself, "Ethan will probably make a comment on my last post", and you actually doing it 10 minutes later.... __________________ She said if time was in a bottle High up on her shelf She would knock it over And make the world stand still If faith was in her left hand And love was in her right She'd put them both together And raise them to the sky http://myspace.com/euphoric_resolve

12-17-2007, 07:20 PM
Ace Negative Creep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 647	My point is....you've had somewhat snide comments towards me for the past few days, coincidence they may be, but rather unlikely. And if memory serves me correct, you have never liked Tool to begin with. Comparing men to monkeys is a good metaphor in my opinion, since alot of them have about as much sense. "Give them thumbs, they make a club and beat their brother down." How is simply coming into a thread and saying, "filler is filler", making a valid comment on the music? It has no productive criticism in it at all, though I like your latter post better. My main point, I hate the entire genre of rap, yet you don't see me up and down the threads voicing my opinion on how much they truly suck donkey ass. And while it may not be a fact, I really don't know, but you once voiced your dislike for Tool. So if you don't like the band, don't come in a thread devoted to the band simply to say, "its filler." It was ironic, because you have the tendency to randomly post your loathing for all bands not in your top 20 list. I am not taking personal stabs at you at all, I'm just sayin'. __________________ She said if time was in a bottle High up on her shelf She would knock it over And make the world stand still If faith was in her left hand And love was in her right She'd put them both together And raise them to the sky http://myspace.com/euphoric_resolve

12-17-2007, 07:29 PM
~~Gates_of_Iscariot~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: new hampshire Posts: 184	exsqueeze me but 2001 did it better

12-17-2007, 07:39 PM
Ace Negative Creep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 647	As appalling as it may seem to you, all lyrics aren't going to be 5 page long sonnets or worthy of Shakespeare. But I do respect your opinion on the work, yet I stand by my point that your first post saying "filler is filler", held absolutely no productive criticism. And you can't deny that you don't advertise your apparent dislike for certain bands. (like right now). That is human and normal, but as I said before, there is no reason to post on a band you do not like and call some of their work filler, without atleast explaining why you feel that way. Something you did not do in your first post, making it seem like you think the band is inferior because it's not your cup of tea. Your top 20 was a metaphor, which I'm sure you could figure out, and I'm sure it got my point across. And if you'd prefer to be known as consistant in noticeably thinking bands you don't like = crapola, that's your choice. Personally, arguing with anyone who doesn't like a band that I like, as long as the argument has valid points on both ends, is an enjoyable experience. EDIT: Since you aren't talking about Tool, Fal, why are you even posting? Just wondering. __________________ She said if time was in a bottle High up on her shelf She would knock it over And make the world stand still If faith was in her left hand And love was in her right She'd put them both together And raise them to the sky http://myspace.com/euphoric_resolve

12-17-2007, 07:44 PM
Fal My account? Disabled. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 78	Because it's hilarious watching you make a jack ass out of yourself. The top 20 was figurative, not metaphorical.

12-17-2007, 07:46 PM
Ace Negative Creep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 647	Are you sure it's not you doing that? __________________ She said if time was in a bottle High up on her shelf She would knock it over And make the world stand still If faith was in her left hand And love was in her right She'd put them both together And raise them to the sky http://myspace.com/euphoric_resolve