Elliott Smith "Roman Candle" (lyrics, singer, favorite songs, debut album)

sweet_nothing · 05-26-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ComingUpRoses

I'm really late on this one but...

How is Bye any different than Ostriches & Chirping?

Either/Or > XO > Elliott Smith > From A Basement > Figure 8 > Roman Candle

Because Elliott wanted it to be on the album, not some producer. And Roman Candle last? Are you serious?! That's like Elliott at his core.

dreadnaught · 05-26-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

Because Elliott wanted it to be on the album, not some producer. And Roman Candle last? Are you serious?! That's like Elliott at his core.

It's last because it took the longest to click with me. XO is really the only Elliott Smith album that I loved the first time I listened to it.

NoseClams · 05-26-2008, 03:40 PM

i just read his bio on last.fm and it says that he died from 2 stab wounds and they thought it was a suicide but it was later questioned. has anything been confirmed?

dreadnaught · 05-26-2008, 03:41 PM

no, the case is still open.

(Chiba did it)

sleepy jack · 05-26-2008, 03:42 PM

No and I put on Roman Candle last too, I don't understand this argument that it has to be just Elliott and his guitar for it to be Elliott. King's Crossing is way more emotional than Either/Or, Elliott Smith and Roman Candle put together.

dreadnaught · 05-26-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack fire drill

No and I put on Roman Candle last too, I don't understand this argument that it has to be just Elliott and his guitar for it to be Elliott. King's Crossing is way more emotional than Either/Or, Elliott Smith and Roman Candle put together.

Figure 8 is the only album that I don't feel is genuine.
..I'm a much bigger fan of his acoustic stuff, but I can still see that XO and From a Basement are clear gems in his discography.

NoseClams · 05-26-2008, 03:49 PM

well, i just finished 'figure 8' and i think i liked it decently well. I have just started 'XO' and I am about 3 songs into it, and i am enjoying it a lot more than the 'figure 8' and FABOTH.

sleepy jack · 05-26-2008, 03:51 PM

FABOTH is meant to be enjoyed as songs, not as an album. Keep that in mind.

sweet_nothing · 05-26-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoseClams

i just read his bio on last.fm and it says that he died from 2 stab wounds and they thought it was a suicide but it was later questioned. has anything been confirmed?

Yeh does anybody notice that when a rockstar it often goes unawnsered?

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack fire drill

No and I put on Roman Candle last too, I don't understand this argument that it has to be just Elliott and his guitar for it to be Elliott. King's Crossing is way more emotional than Either/Or, Elliott Smith and Roman Candle put together.

Roman Candle is way more personal. It has such a rawness to it that it's like you're sitting in a room with Elliott. And King's Crossing? Really?

pheurton · 05-26-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

And King's Crossing? Really?

I don't tend to question opinion, but are you ****ing kidding? KC is the epitome of visceral. It's the only song I can't sit through, I get teary eyed every time I listen to it; and with each play it makes more sense.

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05-26-2008, 03:40 PM
NoseClams Ghost man on First! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 156	i just read his bio on last.fm and it says that he died from 2 stab wounds and they thought it was a suicide but it was later questioned. has anything been confirmed? __________________ "Alcohol, the cause and solution to all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson http://www.last.fm/user/NoseClams/

05-26-2008, 03:41 PM
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05-26-2008, 03:42 PM
sleepy jack Vote Unfan For Mod '08 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,709	No and I put on Roman Candle last too, I don't understand this argument that it has to be just Elliott and his guitar for it to be Elliott. King's Crossing is way more emotional than Either/Or, Elliott Smith and Roman Candle put together. __________________ I'm not blind, I believe in you.

05-26-2008, 03:49 PM
NoseClams Ghost man on First! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 156	well, i just finished 'figure 8' and i think i liked it decently well. I have just started 'XO' and I am about 3 songs into it, and i am enjoying it a lot more than the 'figure 8' and FABOTH. __________________ "Alcohol, the cause and solution to all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson http://www.last.fm/user/NoseClams/

05-26-2008, 03:51 PM
sleepy jack Vote Unfan For Mod '08 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,709	FABOTH is meant to be enjoyed as songs, not as an album. Keep that in mind. __________________ I'm not blind, I believe in you.