Rilo Kiley "Under the Blacklight" (country, indie, favorite band)

**sleepy jack** · 08-25-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Yes it was. They never had "major" commercial success, at least not in the realm of other, mainstream pop artists of the decade, such as Madonna, Michael Jackson and the likes.

Yeah, and so far Rilo Kiley hasn't either and they've released two singles with music videos to accompany them. So success wise, the comparison between the Smiths and Rilo Kiley really wasn't so far off, now was it?

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Is there? I'd say Christina and Britney are easily among the greatest POP artists of all time. They didn't achieve the success they've had by performing crap music. Even if elitists like yourself can't see it.

Crap music? If you think old Rilo Kiley is crap then maybe you should examine yourself, Mr. Arctic Monkeys, Klaxons and anything else the british radio adores fan. And saying their greatest pop artists of their time isn't saying much when you're stacked aside the likes of a bunch of 50 Cents, Ushers, and Backstreet Boys.

adidasss · 08-25-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Yeah, and so far Rilo Kiley hasn't either and they've released two singles with music videos to accompany them. So success wise, the comparison between the Smiths and Rilo Kiley really wasn't so far off, now was it?

Really? You're comparing The Smiths and Rilo Kiley? Lol. Granted, I never really understood what all the fuss was about with The Smiths, but let's assume RK was never going to achieve the cult status or the impact The Smiths had.

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What are you so pissed about anyway, that they decided to make their sound more mainstream, or that they changed their sound at all? Is the artist's mission now to please the fan instead of making what they want to make? The only reason why you're so offended with UTB is because you can't stand mainstream pop music (and don't try to sell me that Avril bullshit). That doesn't make you the best judge of the genre. Try looking at this album by its own merits, not with regards to what you think they should've made. I dare say it might make you change your mind.

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Crap music? If you think old Rilo Kiley is crap then maybe you should examine yourself, Mr. Arctic Monkeys, Klaxons and anything else the british radio adores fan. And saying their greatest pop artists of their time isn't saying much when you're stacked aside the likes of a bunch of 50 Cents, Ushers, and Backstreet Boys.

Again with disrespecting a perfectly legitimate genre. If you don't dig it, don't diss it. I hate to sound like a broken record but I don't go around dissing death metal.

P.s. Get rich or die trying is a very good album.>.>

**sleepy jack** · 08-25-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

Really? You're comparing The Smiths and Rilo Kiley? Lol. Granted, I never really understood what all the fuss was about with The Smiths, but let's assume RK was never going to achieve the cult status or the impact The Smiths had.

You know I wasn't comparing them to the Smiths in the cult status/impact sense. I was comparing them in the fact they're both pop bands and using the Smiths as an example of a pop band who didn't do what would well, but did what they want.

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What are you so pissed about anyway, that they decided to make their sound more mainstream, or that they changed their sound at all? Is the artist's mission now to please the fan instead of making what they want to make? The only reason why you're so offended with UTB is because you can't stand mainstream pop music (and don't try to sell me that Avril bullshit). That doesn't make you the best judge of the genre. Try looking at this album by its own merits, not with regards to what you think they should've made. I dare say it might make you change your mind.

Well, see when a fan likes a band, and then that band goes and releases a shit album the fan isn't going to be doing cartwheels now are they?

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Again with disrespecting a perfectly legitimate genre. If you don't dig it, don't diss it. I hate to sound like a broken record but I don't go around dissing death metal.

Didn't you make a thread on why you hate Metallica/Iron Maiden? And pop today is a completely superficial genre, so you know theres a difference between hating that and death metal.

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P.s. Get rich or die trying is a very good album.>.>

And no its not and thats a fact, not an opinion. Theres plenty of better rap. Hell theres even plenty of better mainstream rap and thats a genre wheres there's next to none that are good.

hookers with machineguns · 08-25-2007, 03:14 PM

The new album is really disappointing. With that said, I'm going to see them on the same day as Blonde Redhead, not sure how i'll make it to both shows though...

adidasss · 08-25-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

You know I wasn't comparing them to the Smiths in the cult status/impact sense. I was comparing them in the fact they're both pop bands and using the Smiths as an example of a pop band who didn't do what would well, but did what they want.

You assume they did this only to make money. I think otherwise. It's like saying Tegan and Sara "sold out" because they made a catchy album...or an even better example, that The Rapture sold out with Pieces of the People We Love. They just decided to go in a different direction. I appreciate both Echoes for it's breakthrough impact and POTPWL for it's pop/dance qualities.

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Well, see when a fan likes a band, and then that band goes and releases a shit album the fan isn't going to be doing cartwheels now are they?

I think you're in the minority there.

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Didn't you make a thread on why you hate Metallica/Iron Maiden? And pop today is a completely superficial genre, so you know theres a difference between hating that and death metal.

Yah, like 2 years ago. Besides, that was an exception to a general rule, Metallica I hate out of principle, I don't hate their music per se. Iron Maiden is a joke band that everyone should ridicule. :-|

And pop was ALWAYS a superficial genre, goddamnit. >:[

Edit: Hi Leroy

...stick around, bitch.

**sleepy jack** · 08-25-2007, 03:21 PM

Actually I don't think im in the minority when I say they sold out, plenty of fans have voiced disappointed. It really shouldn't be doubtable they sold out regardless of your opinion on the album, the two things that usually are common when bands sell out are:

1. Going to a major label
2. Changing sound

Rilo Kiley did both. But i'm not going to debate this further, because we obviously see completely different on this. Agree to disagree?

And Metallica and Iron Maiden do suck pretty hard, I can't really argue that. =/

EDIT: and I don't know if you grabbed them or not, but I uploaded two b-sides from this album in the RK thread.

hookers with machineguns · 08-25-2007, 03:21 PM

^ the new tegan & sara is kinda hard to get into, but there's still a few good ones on there. not as catchy as so jealous.

ct0dah · 10-15-2007, 05:34 PM

I think this is possibly the best album I have heard from this band. The riffs are roughly the same, but the lyrics are so poetic, its just mesmerizing listening to this CD.

**sleepy jack** · 10-15-2007, 05:37 PM

Terribly generic album, overproduced, dull and the lyrics are far from poetic, they're some of the worst they've ever written. Blake doesn't even sound like the same guy on Dreamworld.

adidasss · 10-15-2007, 05:40 PM

What the bleep. Merge?

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08-25-2007, 03:14 PM
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757	The new album is really disappointing. With that said, I'm going to see them on the same day as Blonde Redhead, not sure how i'll make it to both shows though... __________________ last.fm

08-25-2007, 03:21 PM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,242	Actually I don't think im in the minority when I say they sold out, plenty of fans have voiced disappointed. It really shouldn't be doubtable they sold out regardless of your opinion on the album, the two things that usually are common when bands sell out are: 1. Going to a major label 2. Changing sound Rilo Kiley did both. But i'm not going to debate this further, because we obviously see completely different on this. Agree to disagree? And Metallica and Iron Maiden do suck pretty hard, I can't really argue that. =/ EDIT: and I don't know if you grabbed them or not, but I uploaded two b-sides from this album in the RK thread. __________________ You're so evil and I'm so good, I'll make it up to you someday.

10-15-2007, 05:34 PM
ct0dah Groupie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9	Rilo Kiley "Under the Blacklight" I think this is possibly the best album I have heard from this band. The riffs are roughly the same, but the lyrics are so poetic, its just mesmerizing listening to this CD.

10-15-2007, 05:37 PM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,242	Terribly generic album, overproduced, dull and the lyrics are far from poetic, they're some of the worst they've ever written. Blake doesn't even sound like the same guy on Dreamworld. __________________ You're so evil and I'm so good, I'll make it up to you someday.

10-15-2007, 05:40 PM
adidasss deadbeat Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,498	What the bleep. Merge? __________________