Offensive language on the boards (lyrics, alternative, rap, quote)

adidasss · 07-07-2006, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

***got is pretty insulting, although I'd half-agree with Ethan, in that I'm not so shocked if I hear one person call another person it.

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I'd hardly consider faggot on the same level with nigger to be honest. Nigger is usually, used more specifically in regards to black people, while faggot is pretty much just a generic insult in vein of dipshit, dumbass, fuckhead, etc...

i expected more from both of you....this actually hurt my feelings because i respect you both...yet the level of hypocracy shown in both posts is astounding....
to advocate lesser usage of swear words and then say you're not really shocked or insulted by the use of the word " faggot" confounds me....just because one word is widely used as an insult doesn't make it any more acceptable than "nigger"...it shows the same level of contempt for a certain type of people. by enabling it's usage, by looking the other way and not having a problem with it, you're perpetuating the hate cycle....

i best get out of this discussion because i might get seriously upset, judging by the initial comments....

do as you please, i've learned not to pay attention to insulting remarks, but it still doesn't make it right....

**sleepy jack** · 07-07-2006, 03:48 AM

I'd like to take back what I said on that matter, that was completely ignorant/stupid of me to even say. Sorry marijan

MURDER JUNKIE · 07-07-2006, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

i expected more from both of you....this actually hurt my feelings because i respect you both...yet the level of hypocracy shown in both posts is astounding....
to advocate lesser usage of swear words and then say you're not really shocked or insulted by the use of the word " faggot" confounds me....just because one word is widely used as an insult doesn't make it any more acceptable than "nigger"...it shows the same level of contempt for a certain type of people. by enabling it's usage, by looking the other way and not having a problem with it, you're perpetuating the hate cycle....

i best get out of this discussion because i might get seriously upset, judging by the initial comments....

do as you please, i've learned not to pay attention to insulting remarks, but it still doesn't make it right....

Check and mate, I'm interested to hear CrazyLove, RealEyez, and Dirt's response to this thread

**sleepy jack** · 07-07-2006, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE

Check and mate, I'm interested to hear CrazyLove, RealEyez, and Dirt's response to this thread

I doubt any of them would care seeing as they've all used the term nigga on the forums.

MURDER JUNKIE · 07-07-2006, 04:25 AM

Like I said, I'm interested

DontRunMeOver · 07-07-2006, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

to advocate lesser usage of swear words and then say you're not really shocked or insulted by the use of the word " faggot" confounds me...

I really am sorry if I managed to upset you inadvertantly, but what you've written there wasn't what I said or meant.

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***got is pretty insulting, although I'd half-agree with Ethan, in that I'm not so shocked if I hear one person call another person it.

So it would have made a bit more sense if I'd italicised it, or replaced 'so' with 'as' or 'quite as'.

In this situation I'm talking about my own personal response to the word ***got. I, as a straight man, find it's use to be insulting - even though the word couldn't be directed at me with real intent. Being insulted is different to being shocked, in that being shocked also requires a degree of surprise. If I hear somebody *** described as a '***got', I'm not left as open mouthed and aghast as if I hear a black person described as a 'nigger'... and that's the truth.

MJ, I'm interested too.

riseagainstrocks · 07-07-2006, 06:45 AM

It comes down to this, regardless of what this poll shows, that word will not be used on MusicBanter for any reason. It's uneccessary and insulting. MusicBanter is a safe and relaxing enviroment, and profanity of that level will not be tolerated

adidasss · 07-07-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

If I hear somebody *** described as a '***got', I'm not left as open mouthed and aghast as if I hear a black person described as a 'nigger'... and that's the truth.

well i'm sorry you feel that way Tom, like i said, i see no difference between the words...and the fact that you're not as shocked to hear gay people reffered to as faggots says a lot about the position of homosexuals today....

MURDER JUNKIE · 07-07-2006, 07:18 AM

I feel one and the same of both words, same goes for PAKI, KIKE or any others

Blain · 07-07-2006, 08:14 AM

I've got black friends and they've got no problem with the words, in class when they get in trouble they joke "It's coz I'm black isn't it?" We all have a laugh and we feel great, I really don't see why it's offensive...

But on the other hand I would find it grossly offensive if you were acctually insulting the person, You cannot tease people for what god or whatever you believe gave them, In that case they should be banned from the boards immediately and not be able to return

View Poll Results: Which of these words do find to be offensive?
Nigga	0	0%
Nigger	8	22.86%
Both of them	10	28.57%
Neither of them	17	48.57%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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07-07-2006, 03:48 AM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,552	I'd like to take back what I said on that matter, that was completely ignorant/stupid of me to even say. Sorry marijan __________________ I'm not blind, I believe in you.

07-07-2006, 04:25 AM
MURDER JUNKIE Who Loves Ya Baby??? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SH1TTY London Ontario Canada Posts: 2,387	Like I said, I'm interested __________________ I've been had at least that's how it looks and it's not funny like on TV and it's not smart like it is in books

07-07-2006, 06:45 AM
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: JMU Posts: 3,151	It comes down to this, regardless of what this poll shows, that word will not be used on MusicBanter for any reason. It's uneccessary and insulting. MusicBanter is a safe and relaxing enviroment, and profanity of that level will not be tolerated __________________ www.siegemusic.blogspot.com One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

07-07-2006, 07:18 AM
MURDER JUNKIE Who Loves Ya Baby??? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SH1TTY London Ontario Canada Posts: 2,387	I feel one and the same of both words, same goes for PAKI, KIKE or any others __________________ I've been had at least that's how it looks and it's not funny like on TV and it's not smart like it is in books

07-07-2006, 08:14 AM
Blain w0rd Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Suva, Fiji Posts: 1,032	I've got black friends and they've got no problem with the words, in class when they get in trouble they joke "It's coz I'm black isn't it?" We all have a laugh and we feel great, I really don't see why it's offensive... But on the other hand I would find it grossly offensive if you were acctually insulting the person, You cannot tease people for what god or whatever you believe gave them, In that case they should be banned from the boards immediately and not be able to return