Why Don't I Like Avant Garde?

GroovyPanda · 10-01-2017, 05:19 PM

I want to, but don't.

I "appreciate" the genre. I understand the wonderful creativity, the freedom, and sometimes the genius of the composer.

But the bizarre syncopations (if there are any syncopations), and-- to me-- the absence of rhythm, I cannot listen. Even Miles Davis Witches Brew and some of John Coltranes masterpieces is hard for me to listen for longer than a few minutes. It's like this

By no means am I putting this genre down; I just wish I could like it more.

Why do some people like avant garde and others do not? Is it an acquired fondness?

Thanks for any feedback!

**Frownland** · 10-01-2017, 05:27 PM

*shrug* You tell me. Avant-garde music is a pretty big umbrella. What do you normally listen to?

~~MicShazam~~ · 10-01-2017, 05:33 PM

I'm not even sure anything that I like qualifies as avant garde.
The Olga Bell album below might? No matter what it is, I think it's brilliant.
Avant garde is kind of a weirdly fuzzy genre term.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-01-2017, 05:34 PM

i'm not totally into avant garde music but when it sticks, god damn does it stick.

there's some really wild experimental hip-hop and metal i can get down with, but in the case of my jazz i need there to still be a little bit of a traditional approach for me to latch onto it.

**Frownland** · 10-01-2017, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

really wild experimental hip-hop

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-01-2017, 05:38 PM

video is not available young man

Zhanteimi · 10-01-2017, 05:38 PM

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**Frownland** · 10-01-2017, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

video is not available young man

Its trussmidaddi by Jpegmafia and Freaky. I also added a Doseone track.

OccultHawk · 10-01-2017, 05:39 PM

I take it you mean Bitches Brew?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-01-2017, 05:39 PM

oh **** yeah avant-folk is the best. if there's one thing i miss about taking recs in my journal it's missing out on grindy's never ending list of awesome avant-folk acts.

10-01-2017, 05:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
GroovyPanda Groupie Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Untied States Posts: 27	Why Don't I Like Avant Garde? I want to, but don't. I "appreciate" the genre. I understand the wonderful creativity, the freedom, and sometimes the genius of the composer. But the bizarre syncopations (if there are any syncopations), and-- to me-- the absence of rhythm, I cannot listen. Even Miles Davis Witches Brew and some of John Coltranes masterpieces is hard for me to listen for longer than a few minutes. It's like this By no means am I putting this genre down; I just wish I could like it more. Why do some people like avant garde and others do not? Is it an acquired fondness? Thanks for any feedback!

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	shrug You tell me. Avant-garde music is a pretty big umbrella. What do you normally listen to? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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10-01-2017, 05:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	I'm not even sure anything that I like qualifies as avant garde. The Olga Bell album below might? No matter what it is, I think it's brilliant. Avant garde is kind of a weirdly fuzzy genre term.