Zep Vs. The Who (rock, quote)

[JayJamJah]

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

The hell? Yes you did. You just didn't write those two chapters.

This is where we differ, I can discern another song inside a song, or book inside a book, I am distracted the whole is ruined. Best recent example is Sean Kingston's "Beautiful Girl", instantly hear Stand by Me and the song just becomes a "bad cover" really. I here a song I like and the artists is butchering it. You get what I mean?

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

I'm not as serious as it seems, trust me, lol. Just a bit grating, having to type out the same post out over and over again because people keep saying you're wrong but aren't even defeating your argument.

Good to know, it's hard to gage tone online. If I can give unsolicited advice, look at is as an exchange of ideas\perspectives more then a right\wrong argument\debate.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Why? As I've said, most often the song doesn't even sound anything like the original.

Sigh

How many times do I have to say it?

It's not like they just take a song, remove the vocals and rap over it. A lot of producers will get up to seven or eight different songs, take little snippets from each, and put them together to create something new. Sure, sometimes an entire bassline is used, but even then, it rarely (if ever) sounds much like the original song due to other samples being used, different vocal melodies, etc.

Oh the irony.

Of course the original artists deserve credit, but to say the producers/rappers deserve none is ****ing ridiculous.

Oh the irony.

And you are taking this a bit seriously, you're being overly defensive and aggressive already.

[Wayfarer]

It's not not plagiarism because it doesn't sound like the original, it's not plagiarism because they give the original artists credit. The fact that it usually hardly sounds like the original just adds to it.

And I've never said that Led Zeppelin don't deserve any credit for their covers, I'm saying the original artists do deserve credit and Led Zeppelin were plagiarists for not giving any in some cases.

And sorry about getting so angry there, beb. I've calmed down now, got a cigarette and some strawberry yogurt.

This is where we differ, I can discern another song inside a song, or book inside a book, I am distracted the whole is ruined. Best recent example is Sean Kingston's "Beautiful Girl", instantly hear Stand by Me and the song just becomes a "bad cover" really. I here a song I like and the artists is butchering it. You get what I mean?

It's not really a matter of opinion. If you write a book and two chapters are stolen from another book, word-for-word, you still wrote the rest of it and deserve credit for that. I get what you mean, I'm just saying that it isn't plagiarism and the original artist isn't the only one who deserves any credit.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, that song is without a doubt the epitome of aural diarrhea.

[Piss Me Off]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Paul's Boutiques samples are pretty obvious though, probably because it mostly samples very popular songs, as does Licensed to Ill.

That's the beauty of it though, it's like listening to a condensed history of rock in one album!