Is there such a thing as modern classical? (rock, albums)

beat yr own KID · 08-16-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sound Devastation

There are alot of modern composers.. forget post-rock, check out the label Tzadik.

Toby Driver in particular, his solo work and his band Kayo Dot.

Good call on Toby.

I'd call bands like godspeed you! black emperor, kayo dot, battles, as close as you will get to "modern classical"

**LesPaul43** · 08-16-2006, 12:51 AM

AKA like Post-Rock - ish music...so i guess you could say that and Neoclassical are the closest things to a "modern classical"

runawaymylilnightmare · 08-22-2006, 08:26 AM

Technically classical music is music from a certain time period of music with Mozart being the most well known composer today from that time period. Bach, Beethoven (borderline classical/romantic), Debussy, Chopin etc...are not technically classical composers, they are Baroque and Romantic.

However with so many different types of music, somewhere down the line when you go to you local music store all the "classical" composers are clumped together. Imagine separating them by Romantic, Baroque, Classical, Modern.

Now modern music, or modern "classical" is anywhere from the early 20th century till today. This period has the advent of atonality, and also a lot of experimental music. Experimental in its rhythm changes, tonality, or lack of....and there is also the beginning of electronic music, experimenting with noise effects etc....

Good modern music to check out Shoenberg, Shnitke, Milton Babbit, Holst "The Planets", Tokyo 77 (new experimental music)....

MoonlitSunshine · 08-22-2006, 11:13 AM

Or you could be thinking of Contemporary muci, which is uses the same instruments as classical (strings, woodwind, etc.) but has changed to more abstract, akin to the way art has changed.

Fenixpunk · 08-22-2006, 11:16 AM

the answer is no.

can you have cold hot water?
no.

MoonlitSunshine · 08-22-2006, 11:35 AM

Well, it depends. I mean modern pop is technically an evolution of classic pop, such as the beatles, isn't it? So technically you can have "modern" Classical music, which is an evolution of the old genre.

Fenixpunk · 08-22-2006, 11:49 AM

classical music is concert music from a certain era.."modern classical" as you put it would simply be "modern concert music"

calling something modern classical is a contradiction in terms.

MoonlitSunshine · 08-23-2006, 04:46 AM

I never said it was called modern classical, as far as I'm aware it's called "contemporary". I was just saying that the idea behind it was perfectly viable, and does exist, which was what the original question was.

WolfishSmile · 10-22-2006, 10:27 AM

Mogwai are abit classical, not a massive amount though... With a mix of some percussion in there...

Ma Cherie · 02-27-2007, 02:57 PM

Trans Siberian Orchestra is kinda like that, though they play alot of christmas music, they also have beethoven's last night which has beethoven and mozart on it as well

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08-16-2006, 12:51 AM
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08-22-2006, 08:26 AM
runawaymylilnightmare Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 54	Technically classical music is music from a certain time period of music with Mozart being the most well known composer today from that time period. Bach, Beethoven (borderline classical/romantic), Debussy, Chopin etc...are not technically classical composers, they are Baroque and Romantic. However with so many different types of music, somewhere down the line when you go to you local music store all the "classical" composers are clumped together. Imagine separating them by Romantic, Baroque, Classical, Modern. Now modern music, or modern "classical" is anywhere from the early 20th century till today. This period has the advent of atonality, and also a lot of experimental music. Experimental in its rhythm changes, tonality, or lack of....and there is also the beginning of electronic music, experimenting with noise effects etc.... Good modern music to check out Shoenberg, Shnitke, Milton Babbit, Holst "The Planets", Tokyo 77 (new experimental music)....

08-22-2006, 11:13 AM
MoonlitSunshine Dat's Der Bunny! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 605	Or you could be thinking of Contemporary muci, which is uses the same instruments as classical (strings, woodwind, etc.) but has changed to more abstract, akin to the way art has changed. __________________ "You're Never Alone With a Rubber Duck" - Captain of the 3rd Ark

08-22-2006, 11:16 AM
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08-22-2006, 11:35 AM
MoonlitSunshine Dat's Der Bunny! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 605	Well, it depends. I mean modern pop is technically an evolution of classic pop, such as the beatles, isn't it? So technically you can have "modern" Classical music, which is an evolution of the old genre. __________________ "You're Never Alone With a Rubber Duck" - Captain of the 3rd Ark

08-22-2006, 11:49 AM
Fenixpunk The Erroneous Hoodlum Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Side Phoenix Posts: 2,133	classical music is concert music from a certain era.."modern classical" as you put it would simply be "modern concert music" calling something modern classical is a contradiction in terms. __________________ This message has been approved by Shawn Erroneous - Hoodlum Hardcore

08-23-2006, 04:46 AM
MoonlitSunshine Dat's Der Bunny! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 605	I never said it was called modern classical, as far as I'm aware it's called "contemporary". I was just saying that the idea behind it was perfectly viable, and does exist, which was what the original question was. __________________ "You're Never Alone With a Rubber Duck" - Captain of the 3rd Ark

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