Bob Dylan

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-04-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrey

after all to me if you do not write your own songs I wouldn't call my self an artist.

Yeah because writing a 2 chord rock song called 'I shit my pants' or whatever is far more difficult than becoming a classically trained pianist or an opera singer.

Paul Smeenus · 04-04-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Yeah because writing a 2 chord rock song called 'I shit my pants' or whatever is far more difficult than becoming a classically trained pianist or an opera singer.

Sigfile time...

Lisnaholic · 09-06-2014, 06:31 PM

Having listened to Another Self Portrait a few times, I came here to write a scathing post about the guy who produced the original Self Portrait album back in 1970.

In addition to alternative takes which are arguably better than the released takes, Another Self Portrait introduces us to seven really good songs from the original recording sessions that didn`t make the 1970 tracklist at all. Given their excellent quality, you have to wonder why. Admittedly they are covers rather than original compositions, but they clearly show how Dylan was respectfully exploring Americana at the time. There is a musicianship and consistency to them that was completely obscured by the dog`s dinner of mismatched mediocrity which became Self Portrait. If you think I`m being unduly harsh to the 1970 album, let`s not forget that a Rolling Stone reviewer at the time famously started his review with "What is this sh*t?": Bob Dylan Self Portrait Album Review | Rolling Stone

Bob Dylan`s reputation in 1970 was still a towering structure of deification that he was struggling to get out from under - and Self Portrait could`ve been the album that did it for him, while giving him fresh, human-style status as a worthy interpreter of an honourable musical tradition. Instead, Self Portrait was such a clumsy collection that it allowed reviewers to take previously unthinkable potshots at the great man, as above. How could such good studio work be so damagingly misrepresented on an album? How could one badly-produced album change Bob`s status from prophet to laughingstock almost overnight?

So step forward, Bob Johnston, and explain yourself!

Bob Johnston is one of a select few music producers whose name may be recognised outside the music profession itself. It doesn`t hurt that he is briefly refered to on Nashville Skyline -Is it rolling, Bob?

Quite what he was thinking when he put together Self Portrait is beyond me. Unfortunately, given my previous invective, he seems to`ve earned the admiration of all the musicians he worked with. That he was also an unpretentious nice guy comes across clearly in this interview extract:- Bob Dylan Publications

So step forward, Bob Johnston, and, er, receive the praise you so richly deserve!

FishlessExistence · 09-06-2014, 09:28 PM

^ Interesting post. I've always wondered why Self Portrait turned out so bad.

Lisnaholic · 02-14-2015, 05:27 PM

Rather in the spirit of David Bowie with his line, "I had to call someone and I picked on you -hoo -hoo", I had to post this article somewhere and I picked on here :-

Bob Dylan

*immediately googles Billy Lee Riley*

Neapolitan · 02-14-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Rather in the spirit of David Bowie with his line, "I had to call someone and I picked on you -hoo -hoo", I had to post this article somewhere and I picked on here :-

Bob Dylan

*immediately googles Billy Lee Riley*

Billy Lee Riley had the song (My Gal Is) Red Hot. It was covered by Robert Gordon (with Link Wray). The song is really a reworked Robert Johnson song, (Hot Tomales and) They're Red Hot.

shelly167 · 04-13-2015, 01:03 AM

Love the music he created, but have to say I often prefer listening to other artists cover Bob Dylan songs as I don't think he had the best voice. His recordings of many of his great songs don't actually do them justice in my opinion.

countrypie · 04-26-2015, 08:34 PM

Bob purposely released bad albums such as Self Portrait to destroy his image, he didn't like people coming to his farm in woodstock and asking him about organic farming, or the meaning of life. He just wanted to live a somewhat normal life. But nothing he could do would shake it.

Now its unbelievable that we'd get Another Self portrait. Sounds embarrassing, but god damn, it is good. Pretty Saro's vocals are some of the best the man has ever produced.

matheus canteri · 05-09-2015, 10:58 AM

I really like his version of "Ballad of Ira Hayes". He puts a lot of emotion!!!

JennyGaldino · 05-24-2015, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

The only man alive in music today that deserves the title "living legend"

totally agree

09-06-2014, 06:31 PM	#673 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	A fine man, but not his finest hour Having listened to Another Self Portrait a few times, I came here to write a scathing post about the guy who produced the original Self Portrait album back in 1970. In addition to alternative takes which are arguably better than the released takes, Another Self Portrait introduces us to seven really good songs from the original recording sessions that didn`t make the 1970 tracklist at all. Given their excellent quality, you have to wonder why. Admittedly they are covers rather than original compositions, but they clearly show how Dylan was respectfully exploring Americana at the time. There is a musicianship and consistency to them that was completely obscured by the dog`s dinner of mismatched mediocrity which became Self Portrait. If you think I`m being unduly harsh to the 1970 album, let`s not forget that a Rolling Stone reviewer at the time famously started his review with "What is this sht?": Bob Dylan Self Portrait Album Review \| Rolling Stone Bob Dylan`s reputation in 1970 was still a towering structure of deification that he was struggling to get out from under - and Self Portrait* could`ve been the album that did it for him, while giving him fresh, human-style status as a worthy interpreter of an honourable musical tradition. Instead, Self Portrait was such a clumsy collection that it allowed reviewers to take previously unthinkable potshots at the great man, as above. How could such good studio work be so damagingly misrepresented on an album? How could one badly-produced album change Bob`s status from prophet to laughingstock almost overnight? So step forward, Bob Johnston, and explain yourself! Bob Johnston is one of a select few music producers whose name may be recognised outside the music profession itself. It doesn`t hurt that he is briefly refered to on Nashville Skyline -Is it rolling, Bob? Quite what he was thinking when he put together Self Portrait is beyond me. Unfortunately, given my previous invective, he seems to`ve earned the admiration of all the musicians he worked with. That he was also an unpretentious nice guy comes across clearly in this interview extract:- Bob Dylan Publications So step forward, Bob Johnston, and, er, receive the praise you so richly deserve! __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953 Last edited by Lisnaholic; 09-06-2014 at 06:39 PM.

02-14-2015, 05:27 PM	#675 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Rather in the spirit of David Bowie with his line, "I had to call someone and I picked on you -hoo -hoo", I had to post this article somewhere and I picked on here :- Bob Dylan immediately googles Billy Lee Riley __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

09-06-2014, 09:28 PM	#674 (permalink)
FishlessExistence Groupie Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 48	^ Interesting post. I've always wondered why Self Portrait turned out so bad.

04-13-2015, 01:03 AM	#677 (permalink)
shelly167 Groupie Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 15	Love the music he created, but have to say I often prefer listening to other artists cover Bob Dylan songs as I don't think he had the best voice. His recordings of many of his great songs don't actually do them justice in my opinion.

04-26-2015, 08:34 PM	#678 (permalink)
countrypie Groupie Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 4	Bob purposely released bad albums such as Self Portrait to destroy his image, he didn't like people coming to his farm in woodstock and asking him about organic farming, or the meaning of life. He just wanted to live a somewhat normal life. But nothing he could do would shake it. Now its unbelievable that we'd get Another Self portrait. Sounds embarrassing, but god damn, it is good. Pretty Saro's vocals are some of the best the man has ever produced.

05-09-2015, 10:58 AM	#679 (permalink)
matheus canteri Groupie Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 21	I really like his version of "Ballad of Ira Hayes". He puts a lot of emotion!!!