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Old 06-27-2014, 01:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Jesus is a prophet but not the messiah in Islam. They see Muhammad as the most significant prophet.
According to the wiki (for whatever that's worth) he is indeed the messiah in Islam:

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Old 06-27-2014, 06:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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yea, my understanding is that jesus (isa) is the islamic messiah as well. the messiah is not necessarily just the most prolific prophet in abrahamic religions. he is supposed to fulfill certain jewish prophecies. jews reject jesus as the messiah because they hold he did not fulfill said prophecies... which include:

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A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world ― on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus, why Jews reject Jesus

christians think he is not only the messiah but god in human form, while muslims and jews reject this as idolatry. muslims think he was a mere mortal prophet and jews think he was just a phony.

muhammad is the most significant prophet in islam because it was through him that the final revelations were given, and these revelations were transcribed into the quran which is seen as the authoritative text on god's word in islam. older christian and jewish texts are seen as less reliable, containing some truths but having been tampered with and translated countless times introducing errors.

jews and christians reject muhammad as a legitimate prophet... probably in part because he's not jewish and there were no ancient prophecies depicting an arab prophet that would bring god's final word. muslims claim that muhammad is actually from the lineage of ishmael, isaac's older brother, and thus a descendent of abhraham. but even if this were true the bible makes it pretty clear that god preferred the lineage of isaac, which is who he made his 'covenant' with.
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Some day they'll ask, was MB originally about music?
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:49 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Some day they'll ask, was MB originally about music?
Who'll ask? The Muslims?
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According to the wiki (for whatever that's worth) he is indeed the messiah in Islam:

Jesus in Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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yea, my understanding is that jesus (isa) is the islamic messiah as well. the messiah is not necessarily just the most prolific prophet in abrahamic religions. he is supposed to fulfill certain jewish prophecies. jews reject jesus as the messiah because they hold he did not fulfill said prophecies... which include:

Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus, why Jews reject Jesus

christians think he is not only the messiah but god in human form, while muslims and jews reject this as idolatry. muslims think he was a mere mortal prophet and jews think he was just a phony.

muhammad is the most significant prophet in islam because it was through him that the final revelations were given, and these revelations were transcribed into the quran which is seen as the authoritative text on god's word in islam. older christian and jewish texts are seen as less reliable, containing some truths but having been tampered with and translated countless times introducing errors.

jews and christians reject muhammad as a legitimate prophet... probably in part because he's not jewish and there were no ancient prophecies depicting an arab prophet that would bring god's final word. muslims claim that muhammad is actually from the lineage of ishmael, isaac's older brother, and thus a descendent of abhraham. but even if this were true the bible makes it pretty clear that god preferred the lineage of isaac, which is who he made his 'covenant' with.
Thanks for the clarification guys, I didn't know that there was a distinction between the messiah and god in human form. I've only heard the word in a Christian context so I thought that was how it was defined.
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