Atheism not needed for a life of greater value/pleasure

Mr. Charlie · 06-22-2014, 11:51 AM

One has to be wrong, yes, but how do we know which is wrong?

We can't see in infrared, x-ray or ultraviolet, can't feel magnetism like certain animals seemingly do, but we know they exist because we invented instruments which do so. It's entirely plausible, indeed likely, that there are other types of information, electromagnetic radiation or otherwise, out there undetectable by our instruments. Maybe even a God or creator of some description is out there too. I doubt it personally, but maybe.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 06-22-2014, 04:00 PM

we don't know. it's just a best guess based on the available information. what i was saying was that the bee perception vs human perception example isn't a question of which is more accurate. they're using different tools to navigate the same reality, not creating competing models of reality.

i'm not saying atheism is right or that there is no god. but inevitably one side is right and the other is wrong. it seemed to me like you were saying you think everyone's version of reality was an illusion and thus equally correct.

06-22-2014, 11:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	One has to be wrong, yes, but how do we know which is wrong? We can't see in infrared, x-ray or ultraviolet, can't feel magnetism like certain animals seemingly do, but we know they exist because we invented instruments which do so. It's entirely plausible, indeed likely, that there are other types of information, electromagnetic radiation or otherwise, out there undetectable by our instruments. Maybe even a God or creator of some description is out there too. I doubt it personally, but maybe.

06-22-2014, 04:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	we don't know. it's just a best guess based on the available information. what i was saying was that the bee perception vs human perception example isn't a question of which is more accurate. they're using different tools to navigate the same reality, not creating competing models of reality. i'm not saying atheism is right or that there is no god. but inevitably one side is right and the other is wrong. it seemed to me like you were saying you think everyone's version of reality was an illusion and thus equally correct.