Ferguson

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-02-2015, 11:39 PM

hindsight is 20/20...

Oriphiel · 01-03-2015, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude

**** like this is always weird. Fact is, cops do get away with things. Things they're really not supposed to get away with. I've heard of kids that got pulled in for drugs and who watched the officers snort or smoke their **** while arresting them. There's some evil in the force, I don't think anyone's denying that. And a sense of protection for the corrupt. You're one of us, will hide you if we can. Sadly this case seems a little uncertain. Judging from the pictures, I kind of have a hard time believing the cop's story. I'd like to believe it was an honest (horrid) mistake but no one besides him and Michael will ever know for sure. And Michael is dead, RIP

. Ramblin. Uh.

Right, the kid robbed a liquor store. For all of maybe 6$ worth of merchandise. Maybe he assaulted an officer. Maybe he was protecting himself. Maybe he started off protecting himself, and then he was assaulting the officer. But to be shot down in the street the way he was... for what he did... naw, dude. There are way, way, way worse people out there who went down way, way, way more dignified.

But I've got new for you. Cops are people, and people are corruptible. Maybe the only way to crack down on corruption in the force is to put cameras on their uniforms that feed to the internet for all to see, to make officers completely accountable for their actions. And then again, it might only make things worse in unforeseeable ways. All we can do is keep trying, and learning from what happens.

Oriphiel · 01-03-2015, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

personally i think hitler deserved to die, but then again i never met the man.

I meant the average person. Obviously, some people have done so much that everyone in the world knows what they've done without ever having met them. Needless to say, most humans in the history of our species haven't been responsible for the deaths of millions.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-03-2015, 02:46 AM

lol obviously i knew what you meant that was just me being a dick as payback for nitpicking my logic in the past

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-03-2015, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

But I've got new for you. Cops are people, and people are corruptible. Maybe the only way to crack down on corruption in the force is to put cameras on their uniforms that feed to the internet for all to see, to make officers completely accountable for their actions. And then again, it might only make things worse in unforeseeable ways. All we can do is keep trying, and learning from what happens.

i don't disagree with this solution but from what i've heard about this case, if it went down the way the officer says it went down, the kid was acting like a maniac and got himself shot. it's easy to to say he didn't 'deserve' to die but at the end of the day we have to let cops use lethal force when they think the threat warrants it and this means that sometimes people who may not 'deserve' to die will die for acting erratically. it's just the nature of the job.

Oriphiel · 01-03-2015, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i don't disagree with this solution but from what i've heard about this case, if it went down the way the officer says it went down, the kid was acting like a maniac and got himself shot. it's easy to to say he didn't 'deserve' to die but at the end of the day we have to let cops use lethal force when they think the threat warrants it and this means that sometimes people who may not 'deserve' to die will die for acting erratically. it's just the nature of the job.

Exactly my point. We can't actually see the situation as it unfolded, so we have to take the word of witnesses. Cameras might help alleviate this problem of uncertainty.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 01-03-2015, 04:49 PM

yea, like i said i have no problem with the camera idea, i think transparency is a good thing.

actually i think we should take it a step further and show these surveillance videos in 3D and imax so it almost feels like the cop's bullet is coming right at you

Wpnfire · 01-03-2015, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

yea, like i said i have no problem with the camera idea, i think transparency is a good thing.

actually i think we should take it a step further and show these surveillance videos in 3D and imax so it almost feels like the cop's bullet is coming right at you

that was some well timed comic relief.

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	yea, like i said i have no problem with the camera idea, i think transparency is a good thing. actually i think we should take it a step further and show these surveillance videos in 3D and imax so it almost feels like the cop's bullet is coming right at you