DeadChannel

I'm going to side with the batlord on this one. Killing off whales was a ****ty thing then and it's a ****ty thing now, but why should I (or greenpeace) feel like hypocrits about it?
Why do people need to identify with what their nationality/race/whatever did before they were born?

Which isn't to say I agree with what greenpeace has done here, mind you.

Oriphiel

But Liberal Extremists blow things up all the time, and there are many Conservative Extremists who try to "protect" things and end up destroying them (how many conservative dictators have imposed strict laws on their population, citing "preserving public morality" as their reason, only to have their nation driven to the point of poverty and rebellion?). My point is that both sides think they are "saving" humanity with their violent actions, and neither is any better than the other.

Chula Vista

We use to have slaves in this country. We don't anymore. Should we turn a blind eye to other countries that have slaves today?

What's wrong is wrong. Whether we use to do it or not. Plain and simple.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Zhanteimi

Agreed. But people are still full of sanctimonious shit.

Chula Vista

Oh, for sure. Case in point.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...211-story.html

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Key

And another Lord Larehip thread becomes pages of posts that are just tl;dr. May as well just use the spam thread next time.

Lord Larehip

So you think we should tell people to lay down and die? Because that's the alternative.

You sound as if you believe that there is a long term plan unlike yesteryear. By all means, clue us in on what it is and who is implementing it. Long term plans needed to be laid long ago so things wouldn't get to where they are now because then it's too late. All there is now is the short term because everything is running out.

Lord Larehip

You might want to choose a better example. When has the US ever tried to stop slavery in another country?

The Batlord

So what happens when the whales are gone? What do the po' islanders eat then? Sounds to me like we'll just have hungry natives and no whales. Or we could, ya know... save the whales. Still have hungry islanders, but it is what it is.

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DeadChannel

I actually see no reason why that makes it a bad example.