Key

I'd like to know Soulflowers thoughts on the fact that more white people have been shot down by police than black people.

EPOCH6

This isn't referring to you directly, I don't know you and haven't seen many of your posts.

People generally get annoyed at protesting minority social issues when they're brought up in odd settings. When you're having coffee with your friends, when you're discussing the weekend camping trip, when you're playing poker, when you're grindin' rails at the skatepark, when you're at a party, when you're watching a movie, when you're walking the dog, when you're on music forums etc etc. Most people understand that these issues are important, but bringing them up in unrelated places doesn't solve anything, we get that awareness is important but it's not going to go any further than that on the general internet, everyone is a click away from discovering some sweet new tunes rather than saving the world.

If people want to effectively work towards social solutions they've got to do it in the right setting, get the message to the right people with the resources to actually make a significant move. And this isn't in defense of apathetic computer chair slugs like us, it's just how it is. If you want to be productive in a particular endeavor, whether that's working for social solutions or getting a particular job or getting a grade changed on your final exam or whatever, you need to know who you're talking to and anticipate their reactions, is our attention really worth your time and effort?

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for me personally.. it's more like i don't know what i'm supposed to do/say about this kind of ****. i mean i've shared my experience/views about the police and profiling in the past and that's really the extent of what i can say in a thread like this that will actually be meaningful.

i mean say some black kid gets shot by the cops. my response is that's sad, let the courts deal with it. what am i supposed to do about it? it's not like white people have big meetings where we all get together and vote on how racist we're going to be as a society. i haven't shot any black kids myself. beyond that i dunno what you expect from me.

i look at it really the same as i look at any other high profile criminal case. like say casey anthony. i won't spend my time going over the details of that murder. maybe she murdered her kid, maybe she didn't. i mean she probably did. but yea. not really anything i can reasonably expect to add to that. let the courts deal with it.

so i guess i'm asking a similar question as roxy, maybe not quite the same. her question was how do you solve it, my question is what would you expect your average person to contribute to the effort to solve it?

Soulflower

No I did not.

I did not just focus on white people.

I said within the last few years, white people (white cops) have killed minorities (specifically black men). These issues have been publicized. Police brutality are mostly implemented by the majority (white people)

That is just a fact.

There is no getting around it and with that point I mentioned why are people so upset at the reactions of black people when this type of thing happens everyday? Some minorities are just fed up with it and its understandable

Chula Vista

So we shouldn't be upset about the idiots who are burning and looting businesses and people's homes in Baltimore these past couple of days?

Do you condone that sort of "demonstration"?

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Soulflower

No I don't.... but this type of thing happens when nothing is done when innocent black people get murdered by the hands of police.

Then when black people riot, they get depicted as "wild animals" but its okay to murder innocent black lives because well.... they don't matter.

A white life is worth more than a black life.

Thats the message that is being sent.

Frownland

Why are so many people upset at the actions of what SOME white cops are doing when this type of thing happens?

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Key

Yeah, no.

Soulflower

I really appreciate this thoughtful post. I actually agree with everything in this post.

However, I still do not see anything wrong with discussing these issues over the internet or just in passing. (This is not directed towards you) but a lot of times in these discussions people always say "What are you going to do about it?" out of defense because they don't want to talk about the topic or they do not think the topic is that important.

Its an issue that needs intelligent discussions on how it can be fixed and productive people actively fixing it.

You can't just be productive about fixing a problem without talking about the problem and how it can be fixed.