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Old 01-16-2017, 03:47 PM   #1011 (permalink)
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I think you quoted the wrong post.
Nah. If you criticise Bernie supporters for being too lazy to figure out how to vote then you should also criticise poor blacks for not bothering to register.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:18 PM   #1012 (permalink)
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Nah. If you criticise Bernie supporters for being too lazy to figure out how to vote then you should also criticise poor blacks for not bothering to register.
Oh I didn't know you considered yourself a poor black.
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IMO I don't know jack-**** though so don't listen to me.
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:22 PM   #1013 (permalink)
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Continuously making excuses for people is part of the problem. You're not helping.

This is the reality we live in, you either do something about it or remain stagnant. Stop trying to justify laziness, lack of interest/education, and indifference.
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:55 PM   #1014 (permalink)
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I'm still in ****ing denial. I'm renting a bunch of movies and staying completely away from network TV on Friday. Have you been following all of the recent controversies this past week with more of his cabinet picks?
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:57 PM   #1015 (permalink)
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I heard about an hour of the Mattis hearing and am glad that there will be an adult in the room at the Trump administration.
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:01 AM   #1016 (permalink)
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I heard about an hour of the Mattis hearing and am glad that there will be an adult in the room at the Trump administration.
He's the only pick I can get behind.
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Old 01-17-2017, 12:02 AM   #1017 (permalink)
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It's like talking to a wall.

Idk anything about China, do you? Probably about as much as you pretend to know about free healthcare. Let's stop building a strawman and discuss the question at hand. Nothing was ever accomplished by lazy people who complained. You need to take action, and for you to sit here and say that expecting people to take some responsibility in the change they want to see is a lazy way to look at how change happens is absolutely mind boggling.
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:57 AM   #1018 (permalink)
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I'm still in ****ing denial. I'm renting a bunch of movies and staying completely away from network TV on Friday. Have you been following all of the recent controversies this past week with more of his cabinet picks?
I'm wearing all black on Friday and doing the same thing.

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Continuously making excuses for people is part of the problem. You're not helping.

This is the reality we live in, you either do something about it or remain stagnant. Stop trying to justify laziness, lack of interest/education, and indifference.
The bolded is why I made that statement towards Batty.

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you do not explain away disenfranchisement as a personal responsibility issue
Disenfranchisement is an issue but you can't just overlook the fact that some people are just indifferent to the entire political process and won't turn out no matter what.
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:07 AM   #1019 (permalink)
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However, the problem is that liberals here in the U.S. (and in some places abroad) don't want to deal with the hard truths of radical Islam and it's roots. They advocate for head-scratching border policies and notoriously convoluted tax legislature. They also tend to be more concerned with identity politics at the expense of everything else...all of which came back to bite them in the ass this election cycle.

Hopefully Trump will be a good wake up call (regardless of his successes or failures) so that someday that Democratic Party (or some comparable candidate, like a reasonable Libertarian) will eventually take office and make decisions that actually help the middle class and take logical positions on issues like race, rather than demonizing the "white man" (Obama) or "anyone who isn't white" (Trump)
What are these hard truths? That between 250,000 and 350,000 Muslims are at risk for engaging in 'extremist behavior'? source

Or that there are a little over 100,000 individuals with ties to terror groups?
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Remaking our entire foreign policy, relationship to the military, and immigration system due to the fear caused by a tiny minority (let's guess high and say 1,000,000 Muslims not only tacitly approve of terrorism, but materially support it: 1,000,000 / 1,600,000,000 = .000625%) is foolhardy and the exact reaction these groups want.

There should be some immigration reforms - a completely porous border is an obvious problem and one that should be looked at (and not actually the case, despite Brietbart's "reporting"), but the GOP's solution is no solution but a regression. It's man-the-battlements in a time of weak American manufacturing and damn-the-foreign-horde in a time of strong American production in fields such as energy. The 'strategy' appeals to low-information voters who see America with painfully myopic eyes.

I unfortunately can't argue the identity politics line. It was so frustrating during this election cycle that Hillary became the 'not that guy' candidate instead of the policy candidate, which is much more her strength. I'm not sure if it was savant-level acumen on Trump's part or simply blind luck that put him against not only a critically compromised candidate but one who took what might have been the worst possible path to victory.

Finally, I have never seen Obama demonize white people. Saying that white people don't know what it's like to grow up black is simply true. Saying that there is a cultural history of racial tension is true. Saying that movements like Black Lives Matter are important doesn't mean that all other races or identities are subservient or inconsequential - just that we have institutional and cultural biases that directly affect 15% of our population. If you have evidence of Obama condemning people because of their race, I'd love to see it. Because we have evidence of Trump questioning people's ability to their job effectively directly because of their race.

Can't even engage with the Joseph McCarthy stuff from Goofle. I remember what it was like to be 17 and have all the answers so I probably should just leave that alone...
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