4chan, memes, language, Trump, alt-right, etc.

The Batlord · 02-24-2017, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Can you elaborate?

I imagine he's saying that people on the right see him as one of theirs and so they aren't critical enough of exactly what he's saying and how he's backing it up, and the left dismiss him out of hand because he's not one of theirs, and so aren't critical enough of exactly what he's saying and how he's backing it up. When you're the kind of populist that Milo is you're either loved or hated, but seldom considered.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-24-2017, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Can you elaborate?

well speaking on steven crowder in particular for example, he told joe rogan he doesn't like how the left praise marijuana and act like it's going to cure cancer. he went on to say car accidents caused by the usage of marijuana have sky rocketed since the legalization of the drug in Colorado. joe rogan brought up the stats and it proved to not be true.

there are a lot of instances like this where they're doing exactly what they accuse the other side of doing, following statements without researching the facts themselves. i think with milo it's more a matter of exaggeration for the point of entertainment some of his dummy supporters take literally.

The Batlord · 02-24-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

^Because meme propaganda and the alt-right (or in the instance of this election, ant-left) are some of the biggest factors in getting a meme for president.

And because in our neck of the woods (the internet that isn't just Facebook or Twitter) 4Chan is a microcosm of a rather large segment of white, 20-something, male culture.

**Frownland** · 02-24-2017, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

well speaking on steven crowder in particular for example, he told joe rogan he doesn't like how the left praise marijuana and act like it's going to cure cancer. he went on to say car accidents caused by the usage of marijuana have sky rocketed since the legalization of the drug in Colorado. joe rogan brought up the stats and it proved to not be true.

there are a lot of instances like this where they're doing exactly what they accuse the other side of doing, following statements without researching the facts themselves. i think with milo it's more a matter of exaggeration for the point of entertainment some of his dummy supporters take literally.

I've heard Joe Rogan support the theory that marijuana hands down cures cancer but more on that later...

I get what you mean and agree now. Another fine example of how the extremes are more like twins than they realize.

**Goofle** · 02-24-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

^Because meme propaganda and the alt-right (or in the instance of this election, ant-left) are quite plainly some of the biggest factors in getting a meme for president.

I was asking about MRA's being included in this. I fully understand the rest of it.

Also top job on "ant-left"

**Frownland** · 02-24-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

I was asking about MRA's being included in this. I fully understand the rest of it.

Oh I see. The Venn Diagram of MRA's and alt-right is pretty close to a circle as I see it, but only because of the lack of cohesion there is to the alt-right movement.

I actually read an article that discusses that point pretty well.

6 Surprising Things You Learn In The Alt-Right Media Bubble

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Also top job on "ant-left"

lol didn't mean to make them feel small.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 02-24-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I get what you mean and agree now. Another fine example of how the extremes are more like twins than they realize.

mhm. whenever i'm around my trumper friend and he's complaining about how all lefties are commies i defend it to try and drive it in his head that he's just as wrong as they are.

**Goofle** · 02-24-2017, 02:12 PM

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lol didn't mean to make them feel small.

Yeah, the alt-left are pretty small in all fairness, even if their actions are kinda overlooked/condoned by many you would expect to combat them. It's hard to decide which is worse between the alt-left and alt-right. Both racist in different ways, identity politics through the roof, louder than their actual representation and pushing bad ideas as a form of identity.

And the rest of the MRA stuff is just a bit silly. Maybe some identify with the alt-right, or other MAGA type movements, but the issues MRA's discuss are completely unrelated. So I don't think it's right to even bring them up in this discussion.

Machine · 02-24-2017, 02:30 PM

The whole phenomenon of 4chan's rise in notoriety as well as the alt-right's is a really fascinating one. 4chan is a vehemently misunderstood place in my opinion and there are so many goddamn misconceptions about the place, even the dreaded /pol/ that it's hard to even talk about without being written off completely. To really discuss 4chan and Trump asa topic you have to come across the different techniques that have been put to use on /pol/ as well as having at least basic knowledge about "meme magic". A lot of the time the place genuinely does feel like a cartoon world or some alternate dimension put inside of a specific board.

The alt right is completely different phenomenon and has so many definitions I don't even know where to start. All I know is that /pol/ is only home to a couple types of the "alt-right".

**Frownland** · 02-24-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine

The whole phenomenon of 4chan's rise in notoriety as well as the alt-right's is a really fascinating one. 4chan is a vehemently misunderstood place in my opinion and there are so many goddamn misconceptions about the place, even the dreaded /pol/ that it's hard to even talk about without being written off completely. To really discuss 4chan and Trump asa topic you have to come across the different techniques that have been put to use on /pol/ as well as having at least basic knowledge about "meme magic". A lot of the time the place genuinely does feel like a cartoon world or some alternate dimension put inside of a specific board.

I agree with that. It's like how people don't even realize that we talk about music on MB sometimes.

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Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	The whole phenomenon of 4chan's rise in notoriety as well as the alt-right's is a really fascinating one. 4chan is a vehemently misunderstood place in my opinion and there are so many goddamn misconceptions about the place, even the dreaded /pol/ that it's hard to even talk about without being written off completely. To really discuss 4chan and Trump asa topic you have to come across the different techniques that have been put to use on /pol/ as well as having at least basic knowledge about "meme magic". A lot of the time the place genuinely does feel like a cartoon world or some alternate dimension put inside of a specific board. The alt right is completely different phenomenon and has so many definitions I don't even know where to start. All I know is that /pol/ is only home to a couple types of the "alt-right". __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither. Last edited by Machine; 02-24-2017 at 02:35 PM.