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View Poll Results: My vote for Alabama Senator goes to...
Democrtat Doug Jones 12 38.71%
Republican Roy Moore 13 41.94%
Other 6 19.35%
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Old 12-12-2017, 09:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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True. Every time I feel like saying people who voted for Trump are stupid, I force myself to remember what their alternative was. It was just two really horrible options.

The whole political system of the US should be changed from the ground up. Don't ask me how though.
The Republicans did nominate Trump so you have to question the logic there at least.

The DNC is somewhat corrupt ala Hilary, and no one is really looking after Americans' interests. Yeah, we're pretty much a mess it seems.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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even if the other guy is the worst candidate you can manage still this "meh it's a wash" bs
And very easily too. Sucks, doesn't it?
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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True. Every time I feel like saying people who voted for Trump are stupid, I force myself to remember what their alternative was. It was just two really horrible options.

The whole political system of the US should be changed from the ground up. Don't ask me how though.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
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ridiculous
It really is. But hey, change is hard so we might as well give up. At least we get to relax a bit.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:16 AM   #15 (permalink)
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right it's easier to just say it's all a wash

especially when reasonable opportunities for change are just a vote away
Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

That naivete is gonna cost you. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. It's honestly shocking to me how difficult it is for people to understand that, but I guess I shouldn't have expected Americans to read past the sales pitch.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:20 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This is gonna be a fun night watching this go down.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

That naivete is gonna cost you. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. It's honestly shocking to me how difficult it is for people to understand that, but I guess I shouldn't have expected Americans to read past the sales pitch.
When you have a choice between someone with a narcissistic personality disorder and an obviously corrupt politicians, I guess you have to look at their basic positions, not that it will do much good.

We haven't figured out how to get a third party candidate who is socially liberal and more fiscally moderate (I don't want to say conservative because once you start messing with Social Security checks, you'll have a riot on your hands).
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One way to do that would be by having the same polling requirements for debates, a box on the ballot, etc. for third parties as the two headed cow because currently, third parties have the deck stacked against them and have to jump through additional hoops just to be recognized.
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Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

That naivete is gonna cost you. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. It's honestly shocking to me how difficult it is for people to understand that, but I guess I shouldn't have expected Americans to read past the sales pitch.
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Would someone with 4 years experience as Secretary of State have made the totally stupid decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? Would someone with 8 years of Senate experience have made robo-calls in support of a Roy Moore? Would someone who had 16 years combined as a first lady have tweeted out something like this?

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"Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to my office “begging” for campaign contributions not so long ago (and would do anything for them), is now in the ring fighting against Trump.
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