Is loop-mixed music still Electronica? (genre, album, copyright, performance)

berlisishott · 02-20-2008, 12:00 PM

A bit of a debate in my own mind is this:

If someone loopmixes the sounds of actual instruments, can it be considered Electronica since it was composed digitally? Or would it fall into some other category because it sounds nothing ike Electronica?

Bridson · 02-21-2008, 07:59 AM

Good question, by copyright law a compilation even if arranged from loops is considered a musical creation as far as related to genre it's the sound that defines the classification more than how it's made. I do stuff that could be classified as Electronica based on how it sounds, I try to do as much "original" work as possible but I don't play drums (yet) and I use midi files alot for that, outsourcing some of the band so to speak, why sacrifice the quality of the album for performance development? I use some loops and also do alot of matrix sequencing, but it's also how you put it together and whether your "fakin for the money" or really trying to express something in sound, I'm doing the latter, money is nice but greed gets you in trouble fast, seen that. Obviously there's alot of faking out there, doesn't seem fair to see someone rollin out crap and takin in bucks, but you can always turn off the player, we deal with a market that abuses talent and overpromotes bizarre, they cookie cut loopers and don't care as much about content, so yeah there needs to be change and a swing towards more real music, but the sound would define genre over the way it made, cheers

naphtali · 02-22-2008, 10:07 AM

If you loopmix "fake" instruments in addition to someone actually playing an instrument then I would say no. If its all loopmixing then yes.

But thats just my opinion.

Seraphina · 02-22-2008, 06:38 PM

I think it depends on the overall sound of the song. Ive heard plenty of Electronica songs with real instruments in them.

naphtali · 02-22-2008, 08:33 PM

Ya, I agree with seraphina. It depends alot on the sound of the song. Because even real instruments can have that sound to them.

berlisishott · 02-26-2008, 04:27 PM

Prime Example: Mixcraft. I reccommend a quick download at acoustica.com. Gives you a few free days trial. I've made several songs out of that just for fun but I was struggling to classify their genre. Thanks for the help.

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02-20-2008, 12:00 PM
berlisishott Destroyer of Guitars Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 148	Is loop-mixed music still Electronica? A bit of a debate in my own mind is this: If someone loopmixes the sounds of actual instruments, can it be considered Electronica since it was composed digitally? Or would it fall into some other category because it sounds nothing ike Electronica? __________________ Teenage angst has paid off well Now I'm bored and old Self-Appointed judges judge More than they have sold If she floats than she is not A witch like we had thought A down payment on another One at salem's lot

02-21-2008, 07:59 AM
Bridson Groupie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Posts: 4	Good question, by copyright law a compilation even if arranged from loops is considered a musical creation as far as related to genre it's the sound that defines the classification more than how it's made. I do stuff that could be classified as Electronica based on how it sounds, I try to do as much "original" work as possible but I don't play drums (yet) and I use midi files alot for that, outsourcing some of the band so to speak, why sacrifice the quality of the album for performance development? I use some loops and also do alot of matrix sequencing, but it's also how you put it together and whether your "fakin for the money" or really trying to express something in sound, I'm doing the latter, money is nice but greed gets you in trouble fast, seen that. Obviously there's alot of faking out there, doesn't seem fair to see someone rollin out crap and takin in bucks, but you can always turn off the player, we deal with a market that abuses talent and overpromotes bizarre, they cookie cut loopers and don't care as much about content, so yeah there needs to be change and a swing towards more real music, but the sound would define genre over the way it made, cheers Last edited by Bridson : 02-21-2008 at 08:00 AM. Reason: Typos

02-22-2008, 10:07 AM
naphtali Groupie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2	If you loopmix "fake" instruments in addition to someone actually playing an instrument then I would say no. If its all loopmixing then yes. But thats just my opinion. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlfq0b1TtH8

02-22-2008, 06:38 PM
Seraphina Groupie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 12	I think it depends on the overall sound of the song. Ive heard plenty of Electronica songs with real instruments in them.

02-22-2008, 08:33 PM
naphtali Groupie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2	Ya, I agree with seraphina. It depends alot on the sound of the song. Because even real instruments can have that sound to them. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlfq0b1TtH8

02-26-2008, 04:27 PM
berlisishott Destroyer of Guitars Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 148	Prime Example: Mixcraft. I reccommend a quick download at acoustica.com. Gives you a few free days trial. I've made several songs out of that just for fun but I was struggling to classify their genre. Thanks for the help. __________________ Teenage angst has paid off well Now I'm bored and old Self-Appointed judges judge More than they have sold If she floats than she is not A witch like we had thought A down payment on another One at salem's lot