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Old 12-21-2008, 02:00 PM   #241 (permalink)
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OK that's understandable. You moved too quickly. ST is more quirky Waits, CT and HOSN are more "mainstream". I'd suggst trying Small Change (some quirky, off-beat stuff but mostly Waits mainstream), or perhaps Blue Valentines, or maybe even Heartattack and Vine. You could also try The EarlyYears, or bathe in the luxury of the live Nighthawks at the Diner.
Try Swordfishtrombones when you've sampled one, or all, of these albums and see if you're ready to make the leap...
Tom Waits underwent a significant evolution during his career, and though you probably couldn't call any of his albums "mainstream," he chose to emulate popular musicians during his early years rather than create his own image. His later albums (Bone Machine, Mule Variations, etc.) might be quirky and interesting but they don't convey the strong emotional connection Tom had with his music when he was younger.

Closing Time, regardless of how mainstream it may sound, is an excellent record and one certainly worth listening to.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:03 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Finally got around to checking him out thanks to TrollHeart. He lives up to the hype. It won't be long before he's in my tops on lastfm.
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Old 12-21-2008, 06:05 PM   #243 (permalink)
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Nice one, Fasho! Another Waits convert!
In response to the Horned One (!) , yes I know what you mean, and by mainstream I didn't for a moment mean that any of Waits's music is ordinary, just that the albums mentioned would be easier for a noob coming fresh to Waits's unique sound to appreciate and get into, rather than starting with something like, say, Bone MAchine or Alice, or even the Black Rider.
Mainstream is definitely NOT a word I would associate with Waits, and is used here only in the context of accessibility for those trying him out for the first time...
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Old 12-22-2008, 06:10 AM   #244 (permalink)
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A thread to check out for anyone thinking of getting into Waits for the first time...

http://www.musicbanter.com/rock-meta...ers-guide.html
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:41 PM   #245 (permalink)
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Scarlette JoHansons album was horrible
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:51 PM   #246 (permalink)
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Funnily enough I was listening to a live version of 'eyeball kid' today. Man it kicks some serious ass.
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Old 12-25-2008, 06:45 PM   #247 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's too bad he dislikes touring.
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Old 12-25-2008, 09:56 PM   #248 (permalink)
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I actually just picked up a double album of his, a sound board recording from his Glitter and Doom tour in Atlanta.

I haven't heard it yet but if all the clues add up, this is the concert they had broadcast over NPR which was mind blowing.

He for whatever reason only toured across the south this time around and as I recall one rogue date in Seattle. Which you know, pissed me off but I guess I can understand why I wouldn't come up here if I were him.
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Blood Money is really underrated.
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:23 AM   #250 (permalink)
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OK, if we're talking Waits lyrics, the first I really heard and listened to, which knocked me sideways: "9th and Hennepin", from "Heartattack and Vine". An extract below. How does this guy do it???

"And all the rooms they smell like diesel
And you take on the dreams of the ones who have slept here.
And I'm lost in the window, and I hide in the stairway
And I hang in the curtain, and I sleep in your hat...
And no one brings anything small into a bar around here:
They all started out with bad directions.
And the girl behind the counter has a tattooed tear:
One for every year he's away, she said.
Such a crumbling beauty...
Ah, there's nothin' wrong with her that a hundred dollars won't fix.
She has that razor sadness that only gets worse
With the clang and the thunder of the Southern Pacific going by..."
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