Music Banter And It’s Hatred of Mainstream Pop Music (albums, Paris Hilton)

**boo boo** · 05-29-2006, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Well I like them in the right context

I won't poke fun at you for liking S Club 7 if you won't poke fun at me for liking Emerson, Lake And Palmer.

Merkaba · 05-29-2006, 04:55 AM

EDIT: Er, about 4 posts too slow, sorry team. Yeah, I had that thought too boo boo. Pop is kinda like the term indie.

If it's popular, it's pop. If it's independant, it's indie. That sort of thing. It can't really be defined by the music.

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Originally Posted by hobojesus

I can't agree with that. Listening to Baha Men (which I did as a child) didn't open up doors for me to listen to what I listen to today. In some ways it slowed me down, as I stuck to cheesy Pop songs for ages.

Look at things from more then one perspective. Think of it as an incentive to find something a little more. Each time you hear a new song you form an updated, ever-changing grounding on what things you like. The more pop you heard when you were little is highly likely to have had some impact on your future tastes at some point or another. Therefore, I say it's a bloody size 13 in the door!

TrampInaTux · 05-29-2006, 04:57 AM

People with no talent shouldn't be given millions when people with loads of talent have to work their arses off to get even a smidgeon of what bands like S Club 7 earn. I'm a man of principles, Urban!

**Piss Me Off** · 05-29-2006, 05:01 AM

I agree with that, but thats just life. No point complaining about it.

**boo boo** · 05-29-2006, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hobojesus

People with no talent shouldn't be given millions when people with loads of talent have to work their arses off to get even a smidgeon of what bands like S Club 7 earn. I'm a man of principles, Urban!

Very true... Though there are also talented bands who make a lot of money and there are really horrible bands that no nightclub owner is stupid enough to hire.

hiu · 05-29-2006, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hobojesus

People with no talent shouldn't be given millions when people with loads of talent have to work their arses off to get even a smidgeon of what bands like S Club 7 earn. I'm a man of principles, Urban!

Talent is debateable. Some might say Jackson Pollock isn't talented and just blobbed a few splatters of paint which anyone could do and became a well known american artist. Sure, he didn't get money while he was alive but still his paintings sell for a heafty sum these days.

Merkaba · 05-29-2006, 05:10 AM

^ He's not dead is he?

**boo boo** · 05-29-2006, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hiu

Talent is debateable. Some might say Jackson Pollock isn't talented and just blobbed a few splatters of paint which anyone could do and became a well known american artist. Sure, he didn't get money while he was alive but still his paintings sell for a heafty sum these days.

Thats because people are told to see something that isn't there... For the record, i always thought Pollock was crap.

Talent can be objective in some ways... Technical skill is difinetely a talent, and it can be judged accurately and objectively.... Creativity, songwriting, now THAT is debatable... But writing something like a NSYNC or Britney Spears song isn't challenging at all.

davidMC1982 · 05-29-2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

Nothing more then entertainment? It's far more then that to many, especially the musicians themselves.

You can't tell me Tori Amos sang 'Me and a Gun' in a bid to entertain people.

But the rest of your post makes good sense. The way I read it, you were saying Pop music is like a foot in the door, giving the opportunity for people to see whats inside the room if they really want to. I can agree with that.

Ok, to the artist themselves, a given song or piece of music may have more meaning, but they put it out there for people to enjoy. To those that listen to it, it is entertainment. Even when a song makes you sad, or has sad memories attached to it, you still listen to it because you get some form of enjoyment out of it. You wouldn't listen if you didn't like.

Hobojesus, you're in for a hard time in the real world. How successful you are has little to do with how good you are, and more to do with who you know and how determined you are to be successful. That's the way the world works. Fair enough you don't like pop, but others do, is there anything so wrong in that?

Dave

Sound Devastation · 05-29-2006, 05:33 AM

my thoughts about pop.

popular music is marketed towards the masses... whether by the band themselves (making catchy songs right from the start) or (more often) by the record label. Tori Amos may have written songs that mean something to her, but they were released by the label because they knew they would make money off them.

people seem to think that if they like everything played on daytime radio that they have wide taste.. they think they like rock, indie, rnb, dance... they dont, they like pop. nothing wrong with that though people seem ashamed to admit that what they like is pop music.

i hate pop because its catcy and commercialised, its simplistic and easy to listen to - not my thing really.

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05-29-2006, 04:57 AM
TrampInaTux that's my war face. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,451	People with no talent shouldn't be given millions when people with loads of talent have to work their arses off to get even a smidgeon of what bands like S Club 7 earn. I'm a man of principles, Urban!

05-29-2006, 05:10 AM
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,821	^ He's not dead is he? __________________ Right you lot, shut it. Strewth Fowler my son, all looks a bit pear-shaped round here or what. The govenor's talking, Saturday's game, very dodgy, very naughty, could go a little pear-shaped. If there's a rough things might be well iffy. These faces are a little bit hard, know what I mean, a little bit of oof, have some of that my son, bosh, sorted, ta ta, got me, so be clever. Good, now shut it!

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