Music Banter And It’s Hatred of Mainstream Pop Music (albums, Paris Hilton)

**boo boo** · 05-28-2006, 08:11 PM

A third rate Gang Of Four ripoff, i'd say.

swim · 05-28-2006, 08:14 PM

^lmao.

Music shouldn't be about being popular and fitting the mold. It should be good. This is the rule I follow, If it's good I'll listen to it. If it's shit I toss it. Makes everything way easy and it's the way it should be. Who gives a spit if it's mainstream or indie or whatever damn genre it's in.

~~bungalowbill357~~ · 05-28-2006, 08:17 PM

So music shouldn't be popular?
That doesn't make much sense at all.

**boo boo** · 05-28-2006, 08:19 PM

If music wasn't popular, nobody would listen to it.

swim · 05-28-2006, 08:24 PM

I said music shouldnt be about being popular. It shouldn't be about be sensationalism it should just be about trying to write well.

mosesandtherubberducky · 05-28-2006, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo

If music wasn't popular, nobody would listen to it.

No all the punx would

Raine · 05-28-2006, 10:17 PM

I wanna get in on this cause this funny.

how popular a band is determined by how many people like it and to some extent proof of this is based on how many shows are sell outs.
Well the fact is most people (that is outside of MB) have bad tastes in music. I couldn't go out to say Tower Records and have an intelleigent conversation with an employee cause most of them just sell CDs and don't know crap about what they're selling. And the fact is they know little more about music (no genre in particular) than the consumer theys they sell to. And in today's world most people turn to MTV or Vh1 for music and the fact is these networks cater to mainstream stuff.
I'd like to think that most of the people here at MB know a little something about music and for the most part I trust the opinion of most of you here when it comes to music related stuff.
If it seems like MB hates popular music it isn't so. Most of the people here (including the person that started this thread) doesn't just limit themselves to what the tv airs, or what their local radio station airs, so their knowledge of good music is somewhat broader.
We can dis people like Hillary Duff becuase we know that there's better stuff out there.
It's not thjat we're against popular musicm it's that we prefer the stuff that you won't hear on the tv or the radio.

You guys buying what I'm selling or am I wasting time?

Peace

**boo boo** · 05-28-2006, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky

No all the punx would

Indie kids would too, but only if it isn't any good.

Relax, it's a joke.

hiu · 05-28-2006, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

What I want to know is why you (Hui) spend so much time flaunting your love for pop music. Great, you like it, but enough of your attempts to make yourself feel superior with your "open mindedness."

I'm still of the opinion that if you hear one Shakira song you've heard them all, and quite frankly I don't care enough to set out to prove myself wrong. I'd much rather listen to Double Nickels on the Dime again.

Hello Sir;

Firstly, I don't think I spend lots of time flaunting my love of pop music, this thread is based purely on my observations around music banter and how it's posters seem to enjoy flaming pop artists. If this thread was about me flaunting my love of pop music I would make a thread entitled "Hiu And His Love of Mainstream Pop Music". Secondly I don't know how you come to the conclusion that listening to pop music makes me feel superior, I think that you not liking pop music makes you feel superior and that's why you so love to "bash" these artists. Who in there right mind would say they like pop music to get street indie cred on a forum.

Good day.

Merkaba · 05-28-2006, 10:55 PM

In a sense I think technology is partially to blame for the blandness of pop music these days, providing you actually find it bland that is. Technology has disassociated the music from the musician.
Think about all the mastering and editing of a song that goes on before it's released these days, all this fine tuning equipment that earlier artists never used to have. I would donate a kidney to charity if, for example, Britney actually knew how to work all this stuff, and she did her own music through and through. But she doesn't, and because she doesn't she has to get some technical team to do it. As soon as this guy comes in and starts playing with the beat, lyrics, rhythm, the tone of her voice etc etc it's no longer solely Britney's piece of music.

When it's finally released, it's really only 10% Britney, 90% some backstage team.

And I think this is where some of the detest for modern-day mainstream pop comes from, this lack of authentication, pride and effort that still somehow makes them the hottest of property around the world.

I know all musicians do some form of mastering at some stage, but none go to the extent and overdose the way pop artists do. Musicians that genuinely care for music, don't become so completely detached to something they're putting their name to.

Just something I think about when someone asks me what I think of artists like Spears or Simpson. I guess this relates back to my first post, I can see why people like it, but this is why I do not respect it.

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05-28-2006, 08:11 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,204	A third rate Gang Of Four ripoff, i'd say. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

05-28-2006, 08:14 PM
swim I'm still your f4g Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,546	^lmao. Music shouldn't be about being popular and fitting the mold. It should be good. This is the rule I follow, If it's good I'll listen to it. If it's shit I toss it. Makes everything way easy and it's the way it should be. Who gives a spit if it's mainstream or indie or whatever damn genre it's in. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

05-28-2006, 08:17 PM
~~bungalowbill357~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 2,749	So music shouldn't be popular? That doesn't make much sense at all.

05-28-2006, 08:19 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,204	If music wasn't popular, nobody would listen to it. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

05-28-2006, 08:24 PM
swim I'm still your f4g Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,546	I said music shouldnt be about being popular. It shouldn't be about be sensationalism it should just be about trying to write well. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

05-28-2006, 10:17 PM
Raine Full-Time Hellion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,501	I wanna get in on this cause this funny. how popular a band is determined by how many people like it and to some extent proof of this is based on how many shows are sell outs. Well the fact is most people (that is outside of MB) have bad tastes in music. I couldn't go out to say Tower Records and have an intelleigent conversation with an employee cause most of them just sell CDs and don't know crap about what they're selling. And the fact is they know little more about music (no genre in particular) than the consumer theys they sell to. And in today's world most people turn to MTV or Vh1 for music and the fact is these networks cater to mainstream stuff. I'd like to think that most of the people here at MB know a little something about music and for the most part I trust the opinion of most of you here when it comes to music related stuff. If it seems like MB hates popular music it isn't so. Most of the people here (including the person that started this thread) doesn't just limit themselves to what the tv airs, or what their local radio station airs, so their knowledge of good music is somewhat broader. We can dis people like Hillary Duff becuase we know that there's better stuff out there. It's not thjat we're against popular musicm it's that we prefer the stuff that you won't hear on the tv or the radio. You guys buying what I'm selling or am I wasting time? Peace __________________ A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

05-28-2006, 10:55 PM
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,821	In a sense I think technology is partially to blame for the blandness of pop music these days, providing you actually find it bland that is. Technology has disassociated the music from the musician. Think about all the mastering and editing of a song that goes on before it's released these days, all this fine tuning equipment that earlier artists never used to have. I would donate a kidney to charity if, for example, Britney actually knew how to work all this stuff, and she did her own music through and through. But she doesn't, and because she doesn't she has to get some technical team to do it. As soon as this guy comes in and starts playing with the beat, lyrics, rhythm, the tone of her voice etc etc it's no longer solely Britney's piece of music. When it's finally released, it's really only 10% Britney, 90% some backstage team. And I think this is where some of the detest for modern-day mainstream pop comes from, this lack of authentication, pride and effort that still somehow makes them the hottest of property around the world. I know all musicians do some form of mastering at some stage, but none go to the extent and overdose the way pop artists do. Musicians that genuinely care for music, don't become so completely detached to something they're putting their name to. Just something I think about when someone asks me what I think of artists like Spears or Simpson. I guess this relates back to my first post, I can see why people like it, but this is why I do not respect it. __________________ Right you lot, shut it. Strewth Fowler my son, all looks a bit pear-shaped round here or what. The govenor's talking, Saturday's game, very dodgy, very naughty, could go a little pear-shaped. If there's a rough things might be well iffy. These faces are a little bit hard, know what I mean, a little bit of oof, have some of that my son, bosh, sorted, ta ta, got me, so be clever. Good, now shut it!