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chartsengrafs · 03-25-2008, 02:38 AM

i think it punk rockers have about as much talent as 50 cent, musically

wow, that feels really good to say. i'm going to say it again!

i think punk rockers have about as much talent as 50 cent, musically!

nonsubmissivewife · 03-25-2008, 11:57 AM

I thought Avril Lavigne's cover of Metallica's "Fuel" was actually pretty awesome.

*bracing for a beat down*

Rainard Jalen · 03-25-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chartsengrafs

i think it punk rockers have about as much talent as 50 cent, musically

wow, that feels really good to say. i'm going to say it again!

i think punk rockers have about as much talent as 50 cent, musically!

not having much technical musical ability is part of the idea of the whole DIY thing. are you feeling alright?

edit: unless what you mean is that punk is devoid of creative talent. in which case you don't even deserve to be allowed to listen to music! heathen!

**sleepy jack** · 03-25-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife

I thought Avril Lavigne's cover of Metallica's "Fuel" was actually pretty awesome.

*bracing for a beat down*

I think that's more something people base off who's covering it and not the cover. Her cover of Knocking On Heavens Door is also excellent, way way way way better than the Guns and Roses version thats for sure.

nonsubmissivewife · 03-25-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I think that's more something people base off who's covering it and not the cover. Her cover of Knocking On Heavens Door is also excellent, way way way way better than the Guns and Roses version thats for sure.

Wow...I'll definitely have to check that out.

I always thought Avril would be better suited to doing songs with a little more rock edge...I don't really care for this pop stuff she does all that much. But that's just me!

15Steps · 03-25-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

I'd argue that a bland car with 4 wheels is better than a really creatively designed one with 1 wheel.

QUOTED FOR AMAZINGNESS

anyway.

ahem..

METALLICA = A GIANT PIECE OF HORSE TURD THROWN IN A BLENDER, WITHOUT THE TOP ON.

*puts up anti-flame shield*

**boo boo** · 05-02-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Comus

Tool sucks beyond all reason, so does the beatles and radiohead, and muse. And all indie basically.

Thats a rather outrageous opinion for a prog fan to have, especially The Beatles when considering the massive influence Sgt Peppers had on the genre.

And Radiohead? Why the hate for Radiohead? I know they are generally disliked in prog circles but I never understood why. They're undeniably one of the most creative bands currently making music.

I know some prog fans hate that some people think they are prog. But even if they are not prog what they're doing is certainly progressive (not always the same thing). You really telling me theres nothing you like about them?

As for Indie, I hate a lot if myself as anyone here will tell you, mainly modern Indie. But not all of it sucks. I think its kinda crazy to say it does considering how broad a term Indie is anyway. Theres some really good Indie out there. Since you're a prog fan you should at least check out some post-rock and math rock.

Rainard Jalen · 05-02-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Thats a rather outrageous opinion for a prog fan to have, especially The Beatles when considering the massive influence Sgt Peppers had on the genre.

And Radiohead? Why the hate for Radiohead? I know they are generally disliked in prog circles but I never understood why. They're undeniably one of the most creative bands currently making music.

I know some prog bands hate that some people think they are prog. But even if they are not prog what they're doing is certainly progressive (not always the same thing). You really telling me theres nothing you like about them?

As for Indie, I hate a lot if myself as anyone here will tell you, mainly modern Indie. But not all of it sucks. I think its kinda crazy to say it does considering how broad a term Indie is anyway. Theres some really good Indie out there. Since you're a prog fan you should at least check out some post-rock and math rock.

I can understand how contrary much "indie" is to the tastes of a diehard fan of prog. Also, I assume the meaning of indie here is more referring to the music that has its roots in punk/new wave. But the idea that that sort of indie is somehow not experimental or whatever is ridiculous. It just experiments in a different way. Prog with complexity, indie with simplicity and minimalism.

Tool, though, from the standpoint of rock/prog history, ought to be considered (at least as far as their 2/3 better albums go) as a good, even virtuosic, band within the genre. That goes without saying, in spite of my personal dislikes for the band.

**sleepy jack** · 05-02-2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

I can understand how contrary much "indie" is to the tastes of a diehard fan of prog. Also, I assume the meaning of indie here is more referring to the music that has its roots in punk/new wave. But the idea that that sort of indie is somehow not experimental or whatever is ridiculous. It just experiments in a different way. Prog with complexity, indie with simplicity and minimalism.

I think as boo boo said indie is too broad to be pigeonholed with statements like simplicity and minimalism. I mean going back to its roots lets look at the Velvet Underground they we're a pretty intricate band in themselves. I think there was much more going on with them then you hear on Sgt. Peppers, that's not a put down to either I mean Sgt. Peppers is one of my favorite Beatles albums. That's just looking back at alternative's roots going through the ages tons of big bands have been fairly complex. I mean sure you have Pavement who are pretty straight-forward guitar rock band but on the other hand you also have The Flaming Lips (I'm talking Yoshimi, Soft Bulletin type stuff) they're very complex and considered indie. Plus there's bands like Battles who completely bridge the genres of prog/indie.

**boo boo** · 05-02-2008, 01:36 AM

Yeah, My Morning Jacket and Flaming Lips are considered Indie (even though Lips are signed with Warner Bros) and they are not miminalist.

Nor would I call My Bloody Valentine simplisitc, same goes for post rock and math rock. 2 genres that share the duality of being both associated with Indie and Prog.

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03-25-2008, 02:38 AM
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boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 6,690	Yeah, My Morning Jacket and Flaming Lips are considered Indie (even though Lips are signed with Warner Bros) and they are not miminalist. Nor would I call My Bloody Valentine simplisitc, same goes for post rock and math rock. 2 genres that share the duality of being both associated with Indie and Prog. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/ Last edited by boo boo : 05-02-2008 at 01:43 AM.