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Old 05-02-2008, 08:51 PM  
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What would its purpose be? I'm such a hardcore music fan because I have The Sex Pistols. I don't like the music, so it has no use.
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I was young too, I felt just like you, hated authority, hated all my bosses, I thought they were full of shit. Look, it's like they say, if you're not a rebel by the age of 20, you got no heart, but if you haven't turned establishment by 30, you've got no brains. Because there are no story-book romances, no fairy-tale endings. So before you run out and change the world, ask yourself, "What do you really want?"
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:57 PM  
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yeh ok...
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:00 PM  
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Well, you tell me why I should have it.
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Because it's one of the most important albums in punk if not rock history
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:02 PM  
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A lot of good that does me.
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:47 PM  
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I know , imagine still buying their albums after all this time

Some people never learn.
Their last album was actually pretty good IMO.

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Anyone who tells you that Syd Barrett 'Floyd was better than Gilmour Floyd, obviously smokes crack.

Nick Drake is unlistenable and BORING.
I can agree to these.
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:12 AM  
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Go to the ProgArchives, say that and people will show that that's just not true. 2007 was great for Prog.
Are you really claiming that anything *genuinely* new is being done? Perhaps in a very few isolated cases, yes, but the overwhelming majority of stuff I've encountered (as I was into prog prior to seeing the light and realizing that most stuff of any genuine worth was in "indie") have clearly been pretty banal and unremarkable reworkings of 70s music (e.g. most of Porcupine Tree, Phideaux Xavier etc). It is no wonder much of it receives such painfully little attention given how unadventurous and derivative it is in reality.

I will check out the archives, anyway, and see for myself. Though I think I know what I'm going to find.

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Old 05-03-2008, 02:41 AM  
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You couldn't be more wrong.

I don't see at all how Porcupine Tree are not being adventurous or original, I mean they have some stuff that can be rather radio friendly, but they have a pretty great and unique sound though they do get compared to Floyd a lot (which annoys the hell out of Steven Wilson). They mix it up with a lot of different styles and genres, everything from metal to psychedelic. So yeah, don't be dissing Porcupine Tree.

If theres any band you should criticize for being unoriginal it should probably be The Flower Kings, who sound an awful lot like King Crimson and Yes, but they are still good.

You do need to accept though that there still is prog out there thats pushing music in another direction, especially the really avant garde stuff. Sure there are a lot of bands who have a more retro sound and are basically just taking every que from their prog forefathers, but a lot of these bands are still amazingly talented and original or not its a sound I love anyway.
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Old 05-03-2008, 03:00 AM  
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To quote an interestingly true song:
The Beatles - Were just a band.
Led Zepplin - Just a band.
The Beach Boys - Just a band.
The Sex Pistols - Just a band.
The Clash - Just a band.
Crass - Just a band.
Minor Threat - Just a band.
The Cure - just a band.
The Smiths - Just a band.
Nirvana - Just a band.
The Pixies - Just a band.
Oasis - Just a band.
Radiohead - they're just a band.
Bloc Party - Just a band.
The Arctic Monkeys - Just a band.
The Next Big Thing - Just a band


Anything and everything is overrated, especially bands. Theyre just people who sing songs. People have to remember that theres no point in idol-worshipping them. Oh, and Panic At The Disco! should crawl into a hole and die. No one should put an exclamation mark at the end of their name.
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Not an idiot , just someone thats heard a Scroobius Pip song

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Old 05-03-2008, 05:30 AM  
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Christ that song is bad. They do a far better song called A Letter From God To Man which samples Planet Telex by Radiohead, its quite cool.
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