Are rappers really musicans? (electronic, rap, beatles, sinatra, Outkast)

matious · 05-22-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RapSucks

I don't think have the screenname RapSucks is any different than have the screenname (inert band here)Sucks. I can't make a whole argument with my screenname.

Ok, still if really had some musical talent would you write your own beats and melodies?

so, say i have musical talent. But i don't have a well paying job, and i cant afford good musical equipment, but i am capable of making good lyrics?

music is rythm, rap still has that. you seem to be implying rap artists aren't as intelligent as rock artists? is what i seem to be getting from this.

and not all rappers are african american...

**sleepy jack** · 05-22-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RapSucks

I don't think have the screenname RapSucks is any different than have the screenname (inert band here)Sucks. I can't make a whole argument with my screenname.

Ok, still if really had some musical talent would you write your own beats and melodies?

Quite a few do actually, and rap is as music form. Music is sound, not instruments. I don't see why you needed to attack rappers for not playing instruments (which is a completely untrue generalization), it would just as much sense to bash Bruce Dickinson, Joey Ramone, and Robert Plant. I mean they just sing, they're not musicians technically. I guess they shouldn't receive any respect in the music field either right?

**Urban Hatemonger** · 05-22-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RapSucks

True but at least they're writing something of their own. No matter how simplistic it is.

Bit of a blanket statement there.

RapSucks · 05-22-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

so, say i have musical talent. But i don't have a well paying job, and i cant afford good musical equipment, but i am capable of making good lyrics?

music is rythm, rap still has that. you seem to be implying rap artists aren't as intelligent as rock artists? is what i seem to be getting from this.

First of all don't just narrow it to rock. Second of all, they don't write their own rhythm, correct? To me having musical talent is being able to play instruments and write music.

matious · 05-22-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RapSucks

There are non subjective parts to music. There's knowing how to play an instrument, knowing scales, and knowing how to read music. That's Music "IQ."

not every musician has known how to read notes(james brown)

swim · 05-22-2007, 07:16 PM

Some rappers write their lyrics, never sample a note, write their own beats and produce their own songs. So this thread in my mind is dumb. I think stealing riffs is just as bad/wrong/regressive as sampling. Which is all throughout rock music.

matious · 05-22-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RapSucks

First of all don't just narrow it to rock. Second of all, they don't write their own rhythm, correct? To me having musical talent is being able to play instruments and write music.

how the **** are you able to generalize every rapper into one group?

the roots have already been mentioned, and they're thousands of rappers who do their own production and rapping.

RapSucks · 05-22-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

and not all rappers are african american...

Absolutely, but there are people who will view it as a racist comment and that is absolutely NOT what I intend.

RapSucks · 05-22-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

how the **** are you able to generalize every rapper into one group?

the roots have already been mentioned, and they're thousands of rappers who do their own production and rapping.

You're right, but certainly a large majority of maistream rap falls under my generalization.

RapSucks · 05-22-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Some rappers write their lyrics, never sample a note, write their own beats and produce their own songs. So this thread in my mind is dumb. I think stealing riffs is just as bad/wrong/regressive as sampling. Which is all throughout rock music.

I can agree with that. Of course the keyword in your post is "some".

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05-22-2007, 07:16 PM
swim Everyone Does Everything. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,483	Some rappers write their lyrics, never sample a note, write their own beats and produce their own songs. So this thread in my mind is dumb. I think stealing riffs is just as bad/wrong/regressive as sampling. Which is all throughout rock music. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.