Best Debut Album: Round 1: Poll D (album, Linkin Park, quote, song)

**Urban Hatemonger** · 05-28-2007, 01:20 PM

Tough choice between MC5 & De La Soul but I went with MC5 because i've liked it for longer.

Slanted & Enchanted has to be one of the most overrated debuts in history.

Kevorkian Logic · 05-28-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Tough choice between MC5 & De La Soul but I went with MC5 because i've liked it for longer.

Slanted & Enchanted has to be one of the most overrated debuts in history.

MC5 is obnoxiously loud music that represents the "rebel" fervor (sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll) without true musicianship or any songwriting talent.

Pavements catchy lyrics quickly destroy any half-hearted attempt at lyrics that MC5 ever attempted, and it might be a little overrated, but at least its semi-intelligent sounding, instead of just loud noise.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 05-28-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevorkian Logic

MC5 is obnoxiously loud music that represents the "rebel" fervor (sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll) without true musicianship or any songwriting talent.

You seem to be mistaking them for The Stooges

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Originally Posted by Kevorkian Logic

Pavements catchy lyrics quickly destroy any half-hearted attempt at lyrics that MC5 ever attempted, and it might be a little overrated, but at least its semi-intelligent sounding, instead of just loud noise.

Just as well you refer to the lyrics as opposed to the music which was at it's worst sub Fall sub Swell Maps sub Pop Group bollocks.

And thats coming from someone who doesn't actually mind Pavement.

The Dave · 05-28-2007, 01:45 PM

Had to go with Kick Out The Jams

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Kevorkian Logic · 05-28-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

You seem to be mistaking them for The Stooges

Dude, Fun House is just mindblowing, far superior to anything MC5 ever doled out.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Just as well you refer to the lyrics as opposed to the music which was at it's worst sub Fall sub Swell Maps sub Pop Group bollocks.

And thats coming from someone who doesn't actually mind Pavement.

Their music isn't bad, especially in Slanted and Enchanted, it has a rawness and less lo-fi quality that the other albums seem to lack. Maybe its just grown on me a lot, I dunno, I wish I could vocalize the beauty of the album much more eloquently. I can see why people shy away from it at a first listen, poor production quality, lyrics aren't straight forth, unimpressive vocals in addition to all the hype that it has raising your expectations; but its just one of those albums that gets ingrained in you after a few listens. There's no fake punkness or self-indulgence, it's them playing a non-Nirvana music in a Nirvana dominated time.

I apologize for rambling to such an extent, I got caught up in what I wanted to say.

**boo boo** · 05-29-2007, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

You seem to be mistaking them for The Stooges

Just as well you refer to the lyrics as opposed to the music which was at it's worst sub Fall sub Swell Maps sub Pop Group bollocks.

And thats coming from someone who doesn't actually mind Pavement.

Pavement >>>>>>>>>> The Fall.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 05-29-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark E Smith

It's like listening to Pavement, it's just The Fall in 1985, isn't it? They haven't got an original idea in their heads.

coffeeshop · 05-29-2007, 12:40 PM

I disagree, Slanted & Enchanted is a really amazing album. It has too much going for it to be labelled a Fall wannabe album although I agree there is a strong influence on certain tracks like Two States. It is a very influential album, Blur were massive fans and used the sound on their self-titled album.

In the Mouth a Desert is one track I would listen to on repeat for the rest of my life.

Mark E Smith says a lot some is very correct, some isn't so much.

chumb · 05-29-2007, 12:42 PM

KICK OUT THE JAMS MOTHAFUCKAS!

Seriously though, that album is the embodiment of rock n' roll. But I like Slanted & Enchanted a bit better.

**sleepy jack** · 06-02-2007, 12:26 AM

MC5 and Pavement win

View Poll Results: Pick an album!
De La Soul "3 Feet High and Rising"	2	8.33%
Linkin Park "Hybrid Theory"	1	4.17%
Pavement "Slanted And Enchanted"	12	50.00%
Presidents of the USA "Presidents of the USA"	3	12.50%
MC5 "Kick Out the Jams"	6	25.00%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

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05-28-2007, 01:45 PM
The Dave Me and The Major Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,886	Had to go with Kick Out The Jams . __________________ My collection,winkwinkcoughcough

05-29-2007, 12:40 PM
coffeeshop From beyond the grave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 481	I disagree, Slanted & Enchanted is a really amazing album. It has too much going for it to be labelled a Fall wannabe album although I agree there is a strong influence on certain tracks like Two States. It is a very influential album, Blur were massive fans and used the sound on their self-titled album. In the Mouth a Desert is one track I would listen to on repeat for the rest of my life. Mark E Smith says a lot some is very correct, some isn't so much. __________________ "In this Catholic Club they never had the **ing TV on and I was going, 'That Big Brother, it won't catch on. British people won't watch that .' And then they went, at nine o' clock, 'Shh!' and turned the telly on! It was, like, people asleep in bed. To me, I can't understand that. The encouraging thing is, 'You were right all along, Smith: people are stupid." - Mark E Smith**

05-29-2007, 12:42 PM
chumb awamba Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 129	KICK OUT THE JAMS MOTHAFUCKAS! Seriously though, that album is the embodiment of rock n' roll. But I like Slanted & Enchanted a bit better.

06-02-2007, 12:26 AM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,552	MC5 and Pavement win __________________ I'm not blind, I believe in you.