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Old 06-16-2007, 12:18 AM  
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How is Nick Drake overhyped?
I'm not saying Nick Drake is, I'm saying singer/songwriters tend to get overhyped (especially if they're dead). E.g. Jack Johnson

Nevertheless Nick Drake wouldn't be as popular as he is if he didn't die. As to whether he's overhyped... I can't tell. Most of the people who worship/rep him seem to be of the alt/indie crowd, and while I listen to a lot of alt rock, I don't talk to too many genuine alt/indie loving people. So I don't know if they overhype him.
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Old 06-16-2007, 12:33 AM  
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I'm not saying Nick Drake is, I'm saying singer/songwriters tend to get overhyped (especially if they're dead). E.g. Jack Johnson

Nevertheless Nick Drake wouldn't be as popular as he is if he didn't die. As to whether he's overhyped... I can't tell. Most of the people who worship/rep him seem to be of the alt/indie crowd, and while I listen to a lot of alt rock, I don't talk to too many genuine alt/indie loving people. So I don't know if they overhype him.
Musicians tend to get hyped if they die, not just singer/songwriters. Dimebag? Kurt Cobain? And dude, Jack Johnson isn't dead.

Nick Drake didn't blow up after he died, Nick Drake didn't even get much notice until the whole indie-folk revival with stuff like Iron and Wine and Owen recently. If he hadn't died he'd probably have done a Vashti Bunyan and just have disappeared for a long time until and than come back start recording again when he actually had an audience. He'd be just as popular if he was still alive, he'd just have more material he might even be more popular.
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The Bends is 50 or so minutes of grovel that isn't accessible. It's monotonous.
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Musicians tend to get hyped if they die, not just singer/songwriters. Dimebag? Kurt Cobain? And dude, Jack Johnson isn't dead.
There you go again twisting what I say.

I never said Jack Johnson died, but he's an example of an overhyped songwriter. And I agree all musicians tend to get hyped if they die, not just singer/songwriters.

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Nick Drake didn't blow up after he died, Nick Drake didn't even get much notice until the whole indie-folk revival with stuff like Iron and Wine and Owen recently. If he hadn't died he'd probably have done a Vashti Bunyan and just have disappeared for a long time until and than come back start recording again when he actually had an audience.
I'm not saying he was overhyped at all because I don't know if he was (like I said in the other post), but I'll just point out that the overhyping-after-dying thing doesn't have to be immediate.
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Dimebag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick Drake.
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Oh hush, we all know you'd be all over him if he had the word progressive infront of his genre.
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If that be the case I would like Dream Theater and Marillion now wouldn't I?
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I have nothing but respect for the Flaming Lips, but I disagree strongly with his article on Nevermind, the "sounds just like Nickelback" line is particularly laughable.

Well correct me if I'm wrong but he was saying that people say "they sound like nickleback" because we're inundated with that sound, so people hearing Nevermind after Nickleback would make that assumption.

I don't know if its laughable so much as it is accurate.

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Chump is right, all of these are really pretentious. They're essentially pulling a pitchfork. "Lets say stuff to piss off classic rock fans regardless of how retarded it makes us look".
Not really. I can't imagine you find it illogical that people have dissenting opinions to over hyped bull****. And classic rock? I think it well beyond that. And come on, that velvet underground review was incredibly accurate.
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Dimebag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick Drake.
As much as I agree with you on the majority of this thread, Dimebag is the most overrated guitar player ever. I mean how can you hate Dream Theater and say that Dimebag is a great guitarist. John Petrucci is so much better. Is sound is also way more unique than Dimebag. He also can shred faster than Dimebag.

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What I don't understand is how somebody can bash a genre. I mean you can bash how talented a band is, but you can't really bash a sound. It is pretty much 100% taste at the point when you bash a genre. Even though Indie rock isn't my favorite genre (or even close for the matter,) I still support the bands for doing their own sound. After all at least they aren't ripping everythng from other bands.



And just for the record *points to CT*...Black Sabbath > Led Zeppelin.
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