Top 10 All-Time (beatles, rolling stones, u2, jimi hendrix, Nirvana)

jgd85 · 07-20-2007, 07:30 AM

good list frances.. agree with you on the rating reasoning mostly, its kinda silly to say "BEST of all time", because music is so diverse. if you took the #1 artist at their style of music (still debatable), you would still have like 100+ artist. and how do you compare apples and oranges?

**boo boo** · 07-20-2007, 09:10 AM

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Terrible lyrics

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The Beatles are far superior. FAR. Like..FAR.

Love, love me do.
You know I love you,
I'll always be true,
So please, love me do.
Whoa, love me do.

Love, love me do.
You know I love you,
I'll always be true,
So please, love me do.
Whoa, love me do.

Someone to love,
Somebody new.
Someone to love,
Someone like you.

Love, love me do.
You know I love you,
I'll always be true,
So please, love me do.
Whoa, love me do.

Love, love me do.
You know I love you,
I'll always be true,
So please, love me do.
Whoa, love me do.
Yeah, love me do.
Whoa, oh, love me do.

F*ck lyrics.

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typical blues/chromatic guitar playing

I wouldn't say the guitar playing on The Song Remains The Same, Dazed and Confused or Stairway To Heaven are even remotely typical of the blues genre. They were pretty damn innovative for their time.

Zeps influence and especially Jimmy Pages is far from superficial, Johnny Ramone even admitted to ripping off his upstroke/downstroke technique from Communication Breakdown, and EVH cited Heartbreaker as the inspiration for his hammer on/pull off heavy style of playing.

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lead singer who sounds like a whiny bitch.

You better not be a punk/emo fan.

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Nothing really stands out.

Different things stand out to different people.

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People just pay respect because they feel like they have to

Surely it can't be because some people actually like Led Zeppelin, surely.

If you don't like them, no one else can, this means that everyone who says they like them are lying to themselves.

Brilliant.

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Originally Posted by i get high sometimes

I've heard plenty of people agree that Zeppelin is no good.

Yeah, from your elitist friends who think because they don't like Led Zeppelin it means they have no talent.

"Oh wow, I don't like Led Zeppelin, I'm such a revolutionary that I'm gonna start an account just so I can rant about them and see much sh*t I can start."

Bane of your existence · 07-20-2007, 11:45 AM

Led Zeppelin would be great... if they wrote their music.

**boo boo** · 07-20-2007, 11:56 AM

They did write their own music.

Most of what they stole was just lyrics (not their claim to fame), and pretty much all of it was just from their first two albums, after III they were doing more original compositions.

They did a few uncredited covers (Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, Dazed and Confused) which was wrong, but their versions are greatly different from the originals anyway, they made them their own.

There are only two songs from them musically that I would say are direct ripoffs, Black Mountain Side (originally by Bert Jansch) and Hats Off To Roy Harper, the later of which they credited as a traditional piece from the start so who cares?

Besides, both of those tracks are good competitors with Hot Dog for the title of most insignificant song in Led Zeppelins entire catelog.

Its amazing, the desperate measures you guys take to discredit a band you hate. Absolutely pathetic.

Bane of your existence · 07-20-2007, 12:28 PM

1.) They stole as many blues licks as they did lyrics.
2.) Stealing anything should be unacceptable on any level in music. They certainly shouldn't be credited as being "one of the best bands all time"
3.) I don't hate them and I think posting "Led Zeppelin would be great... if they wrote their music." is hardly going to any great lengths to discredit them.

**boo boo** · 07-20-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence

1.) They stole as many blues licks as they did lyrics.

Nearly every example I have ever heard was bullcrap. You haven't even given any. Probably because you only believe what you are told.

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2.) Stealing anything should be unacceptable on any level in music.

Stealing licks is what the blues is all about. I guess the blues sucks.

You need to realise that the pentatonic blues scale is so basic that the variety of notes is very very very limited. With there being so damn many blues musicans and so many blues songs, its only to be expected that a lot of blues licks sound virtually identical. The material is just that generic. Generic to an extent that it can't be attributed to just one musician, if Page did rip somebody off, odds are that guy also ripped somebody off, and so on, resulting in a chain of "ripping people off" that goes straight into oblivion. Thats simply how traditional genres of music work.

I'll say it again. Pathetic.

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3.) I don't hate them and I think posting "Led Zeppelin would be great... if they wrote their music." is hardly going to any great lengths to discredit them.

Well the people who make whole sites about it have certainly done a better job of making themselves look like obsessed losers.

**JayJamJah** · 07-20-2007, 01:19 PM

If there was any merit to blatantly stealing songs Zeppelin would have been sued and lost residuals as was the case for George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" which he was found to have plagiarized from the Chiffons "He's so fine"

The "My Sweet Lord"/"He's So Fine" Plagiarism Suit

Also the type of stealing you make reference too well watch this...

YouTube - Pachelbel Rant

It happens, they are 8 notes dude with slight variations things sound similar, also bands cover songs all the time and it's easy to tell what type of music influenced a givens band style, is that stealing?

**boo boo** · 07-20-2007, 01:45 PM

Speaking of Harrison.

Here Comes The Sun is based on the same arpeggios Harrison during the bridge of Badge by Cream. The riff on If I Needed Someone is based on The Bells of Rhymney. Taxman quotes the theme to Batman. Some of the lyrics in Something was ripped off by James Taylor.

I guess in those cases Harrison was just borrowing.

Gotta love your inconsistant crappy logic, you Beatles lovin' Zep haters you.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN · 07-20-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Most of what they stole was just lyrics

does anyone else find this amusing?

**boo boo** · 07-20-2007, 06:46 PM

I do. People make a big deal about it even though lyrics is a far cry from being one of their strong points in the first place.

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07-20-2007, 07:30 AM
jgd85 down the rabbit hole Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: the mountain called monkey Posts: 715	good list frances.. agree with you on the rating reasoning mostly, its kinda silly to say "BEST of all time", because music is so diverse. if you took the #1 artist at their style of music (still debatable), you would still have like 100+ artist. and how do you compare apples and oranges? __________________ death makes angels of us all / and gives us wings / where we had shoulders / smooth as raven's claws - jim morrison

07-20-2007, 11:45 AM
Bane of your existence Bang-utot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jersey Posts: 403	Led Zeppelin would be great... if they wrote their music.

07-20-2007, 11:56 AM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,207	They did write their own music. Most of what they stole was just lyrics (not their claim to fame), and pretty much all of it was just from their first two albums, after III they were doing more original compositions. They did a few uncredited covers (Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, Dazed and Confused) which was wrong, but their versions are greatly different from the originals anyway, they made them their own. There are only two songs from them musically that I would say are direct ripoffs, Black Mountain Side (originally by Bert Jansch) and Hats Off To Roy Harper, the later of which they credited as a traditional piece from the start so who cares? Besides, both of those tracks are good competitors with Hot Dog for the title of most insignificant song in Led Zeppelins entire catelog. Its amazing, the desperate measures you guys take to discredit a band you hate. Absolutely pathetic. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/ Last edited by boo boo : 07-20-2007 at 12:04 PM.

07-20-2007, 12:28 PM
Bane of your existence Bang-utot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jersey Posts: 403	1.) They stole as many blues licks as they did lyrics. 2.) Stealing anything should be unacceptable on any level in music. They certainly shouldn't be credited as being "one of the best bands all time" 3.) I don't hate them and I think posting "Led Zeppelin would be great... if they wrote their music." is hardly going to any great lengths to discredit them.

07-20-2007, 01:19 PM
JayJamJah Revisonists History Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The end of the Earth Posts: 1,464	If there was any merit to blatantly stealing songs Zeppelin would have been sued and lost residuals as was the case for George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" which he was found to have plagiarized from the Chiffons "He's so fine" The "My Sweet Lord"/"He's So Fine" Plagiarism Suit Also the type of stealing you make reference too well watch this... YouTube - Pachelbel Rant It happens, they are 8 notes dude with slight variations things sound similar, also bands cover songs all the time and it's easy to tell what type of music influenced a givens band style, is that stealing?

07-20-2007, 01:45 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,207	Speaking of Harrison. Here Comes The Sun is based on the same arpeggios Harrison during the bridge of Badge by Cream. The riff on If I Needed Someone is based on The Bells of Rhymney. Taxman quotes the theme to Batman. Some of the lyrics in Something was ripped off by James Taylor. I guess in those cases Harrison was just borrowing. Gotta love your inconsistant crappy logic, you Beatles lovin' Zep haters you. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

07-20-2007, 06:46 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,207	I do. People make a big deal about it even though lyrics is a far cry from being one of their strong points in the first place. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/