Best Drug Songs of All Time (Harp, Tambourine)

DeVicci · 10-02-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

saying that 'drugs' cant help you become more artistic or creative or open your eyes is foolish. not to say its for everyone, but without drugs we wouldnt have the 2nd half of the beatles career..... o wait your right 'love me do' is sooooo much more creative than 'lucy in the sky with diamonds' or 'i am the walrus' or 'strawberry fields'.

In my opinion that first sentence is just pure recklessness. I've been down that road before, but I often wonder how much more I might have been able to get out of life if I were able to avoid it altogether. Drugs have ****ed up and destroyed so may peoples lives its not even funny. I just hope and prey I'm able to stear my children clear of it. That alone could be tough because its just scary how widespread it is. There may be a small percentage of people that become more artistic (although I doubt it), but to throw a comment out like that for so many young people to see, that it might encourage is just... wrong.

jgd85 · 10-02-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeVicci

In my opinion that first sentence is just pure recklessness. I've been down that road before, but I often wonder how much more I might have been able to get out of life if I were able to avoid it altogether. Drugs have ****ed up and destroyed so may peoples lives its not even funny. I just hope and prey I'm able to stear my children clear of it. That alone could be tough because its just scary how widespread it is. There may be a small percentage of people that become more artistic (although I doubt it), but to throw a comment out like that for so many young people to see, that it might encourage is just... wrong.

I didnt say go do them, it was a response to something posted earlier. No doubt people can **** up their lives on drugs, but thats a personal decision everyone has to make for themselves. Besides that, most the drugs inspiring creativity tend towards those that really are relatively harmless like pot, mushrooms, and acid.

Wayfarer · 10-02-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeVicci

but to throw a comment out like that for so many young people to see, that it might encourage is just... wrong.

Why's it wrong? It's the truth. Drugs can certainly open one's mind and bring about more creative thoughts. They can also "ruin" lives. You just have to know what you're getting into. Discouraging the use of drugs is just as "wrong" as encouraging it.

What should be encouraged is obtaining information from true-hearted, non-governmental sources and basing one's decisions on facts rather than fabrications and scare tactics.

DeVicci · 10-02-2007, 06:14 PM

Mr Wayfarer and jgd85, the point is that drug abuse (largely illegal drugs) which is what I think were talking about, is extremely harmful to the mind and body. I still think making a comment like "saying that 'drugs' cant help you become more artistic or creative or open your eyes is foolish." is leading kids that may not know better into thinking doing drugs (abusive or illegal) is ok. If you want to, thats your choice, but I couldn't disagree more about believing its ok to publicly promote it. Thats all I'm trying to say.

Syd Barrett became so artistically creative that during concerts he would just stare into space, and spend time tuning his guitar while the band continued on. At least it opened the door for David Gilmour's career.

I wonder where Keith Moon, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix, Dennis Wilson, Freddy Mercury, John Belushi, Marlyn Monroe, Jerry Garcia, Chris Farley and River Phoenix might be today had they not inspired to become more artistically creative. We could ask them, but we might have a little trouble getting an answer since they all died... from drug related deaths. I'm sure a much larger list could be splattered out here if I had the time.

I respect anyones decision to make their own choices in life. I just don't think we should make something so dangerous look so good to the young kids looking for an idle to follow. If and when you have children, I'd be interested in knowing if that would be part of your master plan to better their education, artistically speaking of course.

Wayfarer · 10-02-2007, 06:44 PM

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is extremely harmful to the mind and body.

No - can be extremely harmful to the mind and body. So can television, so can junk food, so can a lot of things. But television can also be educational, and junk food certainly isn't all that bad for you if consumed in moderation. But if you want to consume inordinate amounts of junk food, great. It's your body to ruin. The same can be applied to drugs. They can be good, beneficial, harmless...or they can "ruin your life". People just need to know what they're doing.

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Syd Barrett became so artistically creative that during concerts he would just stare into space, and spend time tuning his guitar while the band continued on. At least it opened the door for David Gilmour's career.

Syd Barrett was a schizophrenic that obviously wasn't educated on the subject of drugs as much as he needed to be. Maybe if, in schools, rather than trying to scare children away from drugs with a bunch of lies and exaggerations, they just gave them the facts and let them make their own decisions, things like that wouldn't happen. Maybe if Syd knew that it was an extremely bad idea for someone suffering from schizophrenia to take LSD at all (let alone daily), he wouldn't have ended up that way.

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I wonder where Keith Moon, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix, Dennis Wilson, Freddy Mercury, John Belushi, Marlyn Monroe, Jerry Garcia, Chris Farley and River Phoenix might be today had they not inspired to become more artistically creative.

Really? I wonder where they ever would've been in the first place had they not aspired to become more artistically creative.

But come on, you can't be serious? What does listing a few names of people who died from drug-related deaths prove? That a few people went about using drugs the wrong way and ended up dead? So what? A lot of people have died because they had shitty eating habits as well. But, hey, once again, those bodies were theirs to ruin. And also, once again, perhaps if these people were actually educated on the subject of drugs, they would've had a better idea of what they were getting themselves into and may not have ended up dead.

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I just don't think we should make something so dangerous look so good to the young kids

Something so potentially dangerous. Pretty much anything in this world can be potentially dangerous. Trains are great for transportation, but they can be dangerous too. And how do even young kids know this? We educate them, of course. We teach them that standing on a train track is a really fucking bad idea. But we also teach them that trains are great for transportation. We show them the good and bad, and show them why. Seems to have gone fairly well so far. Perhaps we should try the same thing with drugs.

**sleepy jack** · 10-02-2007, 06:46 PM

Lol if drugs are so so so terrible why are they constantly making new ones to counteract problems?

Inuzuka Skysword · 10-02-2007, 06:52 PM

Drugs aren't really bad until you abuse them. They will always be harmful to me because of my liver condition so I will never experience it, but I could really care less. I don't really like the whole idea though. I have heard that some drugs make you numb, and some drugs don't let you think straight, which I am not really a fan of. Then again many things can alter your thinking patterns. Either way I think the fact the alcohol and smoking are legal and drugs aren't is total bull crap. Alcohol is just as much of a drug as any other drug.

**sleepy jack** · 10-02-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

Drugs are really bad until you abuse them. They will always be harmful to me because of my liver condition so I will never experience it, but I could really care less. I don't really like the whole idea though. I have heard that some drugs make you numb, and some drugs don't let you think straight, which I am not really a fan of. Then again many things can alter your thinking patterns. Either way I think the fact the alcohol and smoking are legal and drugs aren't is total bull crap. Alcohol is just as much of a drug as any other drug.

lol what?

Inuzuka Skysword · 10-02-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

lol what?

Sorry for the spelling error.

**sleepy jack** · 10-02-2007, 07:10 PM

Haha its cool mann.

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10-02-2007, 06:14 PM
DeVicci Groupie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 37	Mr Wayfarer and jgd85, the point is that drug abuse (largely illegal drugs) which is what I think were talking about, is extremely harmful to the mind and body. I still think making a comment like "saying that 'drugs' cant help you become more artistic or creative or open your eyes is foolish." is leading kids that may not know better into thinking doing drugs (abusive or illegal) is ok. If you want to, thats your choice, but I couldn't disagree more about believing its ok to publicly promote it. Thats all I'm trying to say. Syd Barrett became so artistically creative that during concerts he would just stare into space, and spend time tuning his guitar while the band continued on. At least it opened the door for David Gilmour's career. I wonder where Keith Moon, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix, Dennis Wilson, Freddy Mercury, John Belushi, Marlyn Monroe, Jerry Garcia, Chris Farley and River Phoenix might be today had they not inspired to become more artistically creative. We could ask them, but we might have a little trouble getting an answer since they all died... from drug related deaths. I'm sure a much larger list could be splattered out here if I had the time. I respect anyones decision to make their own choices in life. I just don't think we should make something so dangerous look so good to the young kids looking for an idle to follow. If and when you have children, I'd be interested in knowing if that would be part of your master plan to better their education, artistically speaking of course. __________________

10-02-2007, 06:46 PM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,327	Lol if drugs are so so so terrible why are they constantly making new ones to counteract problems? __________________ You're so evil and I'm so good, I'll make it up to you someday.

10-02-2007, 06:52 PM
Inuzuka Skysword Anarcho-Capitalist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 898	Drugs aren't really bad until you abuse them. They will always be harmful to me because of my liver condition so I will never experience it, but I could really care less. I don't really like the whole idea though. I have heard that some drugs make you numb, and some drugs don't let you think straight, which I am not really a fan of. Then again many things can alter your thinking patterns. Either way I think the fact the alcohol and smoking are legal and drugs aren't is total bull crap. Alcohol is just as much of a drug as any other drug. __________________ My new blog for my music reviews. Sorry, but no links. http://musicwecanbelievein.blogspot.com/

10-02-2007, 07:10 PM
sleepy jack Bone Machine Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jesusland Posts: 17,327	Haha its cool mann. __________________ You're so evil and I'm so good, I'll make it up to you someday.