Originally Posted by mjscarousal

LOL...ah whatever... man I never said you didn't give him credit all I said was, don't tell me what criticism is, I know what it is. I know MJ isn't picture perfect and I have stated that. I know that lol I know that really no matter how good an artist is, there is always room for improvement in certain areas. Some of you people on here are really underrating MJ thats why I'm just reacting the way I am to some of these comments because I know thats not tru and I'm pretty sure alot of other people feel the same way here to but yes, MJ isn't a golden calf but his not crap under a rug either.

People don't listen to MJ properly because it is tru. MJ has been through ish, with cases, rumors, trial etc for years now. ALL kinds of crap and people get sucked into that ish and when they listen to his music, their not really listening because their so busy trying to judge a person they don't even know squat about instead of judging the music. I just really wish people would seperate his private life from his music. The two don't mix no matter who the artist is. People just need to focus on the music and enjoy his talents.

My thing with "peeps should listen to all of MJ's music". Like you said you really don't have to listen to every SINGLE song an artist has made to criticise. The only reason why I said that is because in MJ's case Quincy Jones produced BAD, OTW,Thriller and helped out with those three main projects. Those albums Q produced were the only ones Crow mentioned he said he listened to supposely but I doubt it.The OTHER albums was all MJ, produced, arranged, composed etc. So in this case it still stands but you can feel any kind of way you want or say whatever. You don't have to listen to Mike. I really could give a... thats just you.

Originally Posted by mjscarousal

and how exactly is it force? Anybody can say certain lyrics were forced. It was a deep topic and the lyrics were deep to. It was meaningful. It wasn't no one two step "I'm going to try to sing about something real", everything he said was real and on point.



Forced rhyming? cliched imagery? thats the same tired bull you said last time. Whats ur point? Cause I don't see it. It was a real good song and the lyrics were real good. Once again there is always going to be someone better than you. There are alot of other good song writers but MJ IS good to. Not ALL songwriters are suppose to write the same way. Forced rhyming? lol who the flook cares about a damn rhythm what the man said in the LYRICS was tru and it hit home. Those were tight lyrics.






Now you don't have to listened to every single song but bro you have to listen to more than one album. So you can ultimately conclude that all MJ songs are going to sound just like ALL the songs on that ONE album? You "claimed" you listened to OTW,BAD,Thriller but they were produced by Q the rest of MJ's music was all him so the ish is going to be different.




Bro I know this already, I KNOW THIS ALREADY. This is why music sucks now because this is whats happening now with most of the artists out today. Just because you sell 54 million don't mean your album was good. How many records you sell isn't a mirror of the exactly quality of the music. Sells doesn't mean nothing for the music industry today BUT if were talking about an artist like Michael Jackson it means alot. MJ deserves everything his achieved because his music is good. Once again I'm not trying to make him seem perfect but he is successful because his talented and his music is good.



Basically JUST the ones Q produced and helped out with


Then stop whining that MJ can't play music then

Originally Posted by deathmetal666

how about i forcing feces down your fuucking throat. you try to vomit..
but you cant. Dimmu is way more brutal than whatever-the-fuuck you call bruUtal. i despise people like you.

Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny

The best part of your argument is that you're angry about people "underrating" michael jackson as an artist and that you also accuse people of not being open and accpeting to other people's views and opinions on music.

Did you ever stop to think that, gee,
maybe not everyone has to think that michael jackson is good
or even like him the least bit?

Think of it like this,
pick a band that you really dislike
now imagine a fanatical advocate of that band telling you all the reasons you are wrong for having an opinion that differs from theirs, and that said band is amazing and you're just not getting it.

No one wants to hear their opinions discredited,
so stop telling people that their ignorant of his music.

Originally Posted by Crowquill

I've resisted saying this, but I'm tired, pissed and don't feel like running in circles. Shut the fuck up, Michael Jackson isn't god. He is just another pop artist.

Originally Posted by mjscarousal

LOL I know everybody doesn't like MJ and I'm not trying to make anybody like an artist they don't like. I'm not angry about nothin. This WHOLE convo doesn't bother me at all. I've kept stating this entire time if you don't like Michael Jackson then thats YOU. If you don't like any artist of that matter, thats YOU. I don't understand the underrated crap with MJ but I still listened to you guys opinions and I gave my 2cents. Maybe you should practice what u preach and say that same advice to ur buddies who can all of a sudden say who has "good music taste" and who has "bad music taste". Bring up an artists personal life ish that has nothin to do with music, thats ur opinion fine but respect other people and their feelings. I've never once said anything like that, YOU people on here need to learn to respect peeps opinions and music taste.