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Old 12-08-2007, 04:14 PM  
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Okay I guess i'd best start replying I was hoping you wouldn't completely ignore the latter half of my post but I guess that's too much to ask for from someone who can't even spell you or your.

Actually you know what after reading that i'm really not going to bother, half your points aren't even coherent or remotely countering. You don't even back up half of what you say you just go wrong! He plays tons of instruments but not even I can list what they are! So you know, how about you learn to reply in a semi-intelligent manner before replying at all. Maybe then I'll bother with a response, until then you can listen to Black or White and think you're hearing a sonic revolution.
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Old 12-08-2007, 04:18 PM  
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hello, i think this is like my 2nd or third post or something, ah well, i felt this was a good topic to get the ball rolling again. I love a lot of music and artists. I don't think I have the widest range but for only being 20 I feel that may change over time. Right now I like everything from dylan, beatles, to electronic artists, I.E. aphex twin, caribou etc., and some (real) hip-hop. Probably not the most shocking taste in the world but hey.....however, I am always discovering new music and finding out I like different genre's. Lately I've been trying to discover some good reggae. Don't know how far I'll get with it. If anyone feels like pointing me in the direction of some good reggae artists that'd be grand....
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Old 12-08-2007, 06:59 PM  
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I don't think it's that they can't handle any criticism...it's that the criticism of his musical affect on most artists is always biased based on his personal life....

The Jackson Five and MJ with his solo albums have influenced so many people but his ****ty personal life almost outshadows all the work he has done over the decades. Every R&B artist takes things that MJ has done.

True, and at the same time untrue. Because so many unknown talents have yet to be heard...unfortunately most of them will b cut short...


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Old 12-08-2007, 07:15 PM  
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Okay I guess i'd best start replying I was hoping you wouldn't completely ignore the latter half of my post but I guess that's too much to ask for from someone who can't even spell you or your.

Actually you know what after reading that i'm really not going to bother, half your points aren't even coherent or remotely countering. You don't even back up half of what you say you just go wrong! He plays tons of instruments but not even I can list what they are! So you know, how about you learn to reply in a semi-intelligent manner before replying at all. Maybe then I'll bother with a response, until then you can listen to Black or White and think you're hearing a sonic revolution.
You don't back up ish you say and all the crap you've said so far don't make sence or prove squat. You instigated this retarded convo and you tellin me don't hit you up? All you've said was, Q gets all the credit, MJ music was popularized, his overrated, his vids stink, All the artists his influenced are crap, you mention the trial which has nothin to do with the convo(very immature), you judge his albums when you haven't listened to all of them among other things. How about you learn to reply in a intelligent, mature way and get over yourself and accept peeps opinions. Why don't you try exactly listening to MJ's music and all his albums before you say ALL his music is crap and yes I will be bumping in my MJ music and you can keep on bitchin and whining on some retarded $hitty points you feel to be true in your mind.
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:18 PM  
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You don't back up ish you say and all the crap you've said so far don't make sence or prove squat. You instigated this retarded convo and you tellin me don't hit you up? All you've said was, Q gets all the credit, MJ music was popularized, his overrated, his vids stink, All the artists his influenced are crap, you mention the trial which has nothin to do with the convo(very immature), you judge his albums when you haven't listened to all of them among other things. How about you learn to reply in a intelligent, mature way and get over yourself and accept peeps opinions. Why don't you try exactly listening to MJ's music and all his albums before you say ALL his music is crap and yes I will be bumping in my MJ music and you can keep on bitchin and whining on some retarded $hitty points you feel to be true in your mind.
Why would I subject myself to listen to all his albums? I've heard the three ones that are generally regarded as his best and I thought they sucked. Why would I listen to the ones regarded at his worst if I'm just going to think they suck too? I've heard all the hits and I've heard enough music to judge whether or not he sucks.

All the stuff I've said that hasn't been an opinion, example: I've seen nothing on WHICH instruments he plays, could've easily been corrected by you. But you just say "he plays instruments" you don't even state WHICH, that's called not backing it up. That's exactly how you argue, you basically spend a paragraph whining about how I insulted your beloved pedophile and saying no no no because you can't take the fact he isn't nearly the important artist you make him out to be.
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Why would I subject myself to listen to all his albums? I've heard the three ones that are generally regarded as his best and I thought they sucked. Why would I listen to the ones regarded at his worst if I'm just going to think they suck too? I've heard all the hits and I've heard enough music to judge whether or not he sucks.

All the stuff I've said that hasn't been an opinion, example: I've seen nothing on WHICH instruments he plays, could've easily been corrected by you. But you just say "he plays instruments" you don't even state WHICH, that's called not backing it up. That's exactly how you argue, you basically spend a paragraph whining about how I insulted your beloved pedophile and saying no no no because you can't take the fact he isn't nearly the important artist you make him out to be.
You need to stop be so damn judgmental and basing what you listen to on what other people think. So since the critics or the dude next door said it was a crap album, your not going to buy it? Listen to it for yourself. You don't never have to listen to MJ, I don't care it doesn't bother me but don't sit here and say ALL his music is crap when you haven't listened to all his music and since you don't plan on doin so, you can stop saying ALL his music is crap. So now all of a sudden OTW, Thriller, BAD sucks now?? You've been ranting this whole time about how Q deserves all the credit for his best works and how those main three albums are his best, now suddenly they suck.

They suck to YOU because it doesn't appeal to YOU. Now you bitchin about the instrument crap. I don't have to prove nothin, you looked up for yourself that MJ plays some instruments, why don't YOU look up and search which kinds he plays since you obviously care so much. Once again I don't know why u feel so threaten by MJ but his a legend, it is what it is. If his music doesn't appeal to YOU then fine then. It doesn't mean his less important. Once again you make another immature crack with the pedophile comment and were trying well at least I'm trying to have a mature music convo.Your not cute, what is it proving? Why are u bringing up irrelavant ish that has nothin to do with the music? That ur opinion thats ur opinion but were talkin about music. This is a music forum, I think you need to practice what u preach and follow ur own rules. I'm not whining about nothin thats u ranting about how "overrated" MJ is. Its entertaining I must admit, you haven't proven any points or said anything worth while. I'm chill your the one thats bitchin.
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You need to stop be so damn judgmental and basing what you listen to on what other people think. So since the critics or the dude next door said it was a crap album, your not going to buy it? Listen to it for yourself. You don't never have to listen to MJ, I don't care it doesn't bother me but don't sit here and say ALL his music is crap when you haven't listened to all his music and since you don't plan on doin so, you can stop saying ALL his music is crap. So now all of a sudden OTW, Thriller, BAD sucks now?? You've been ranting this whole time about how Q deserves all the credit for his best works and how those main three albums are his best, now suddenly they suck.
See you say all that like you just proved something but I never I liked any of those albums did I? I just said they were only his albums that were successful in the eyes of sources I consider credible and if a source I trust says something sucks and the songs I've heard from it suck guess what I'm going to assume? Oh that's right, that it sucks.

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They suck to YOU because it doesn't appeal to YOU. Now you bitchin about the instrument crap. I don't have to prove nothin, you looked up for yourself that MJ plays some instruments, why don't YOU look up and search which kinds he plays since you obviously care so much. Once again I don't know why u feel so threaten by MJ but his a legend, it is what it is. If his music doesn't appeal to YOU then fine then. It doesn't mean his less important. Once again you make another immature crack with the pedophile comment and were trying well at least I'm trying to have a mature music convo.Your not cute, what is it proving? Why are u bringing up irrelavant ish that has nothin to do with the music? That ur opinion thats ur opinion but were talkin about music. This is a music forum, I think you need to practice what u preach and follow ur own rules. I'm not whining about nothin thats u ranting about how "overrated" MJ is. Its entertaining I must admit, you haven't proven any points or said anything worth while. I'm chill your the one thats bitchin.
I already stated I couldn't find a thing on what instruments he plays which leads me to the conclusion that there's really no proof he plays any instruments and if you can't play instruments you can't write music. So I'm going to assume that all he contributes is the lyrics and his lyrics suck so therefore he isn't a good songwriter. It's called logic, learn it and you should also learn how to properly construct a paragraph and sentence. You should also learn to spell, nothing has a G at the end and there's several other errors I don't feel like pointing out. You have a terrible grasp of the English language, it makes your posts a headache to read.
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See you say all that like you just proved something but I never I liked any of those albums did I? I just said they were only his albums that were successful in the eyes of sources I consider credible and if a source I trust says something sucks and the songs I've heard from it suck guess what I'm going to assume? Oh that's right, that it sucks.

OKay keep relying on those credible sources to decide what music you listen to.That doesn't mean that ALL his music sucks and it only sucks to you and thats YOUR opinion.

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I already stated I couldn't find a thing on what instruments he plays which leads me to the conclusion that there's really no proof he plays any instruments and if you can't play instruments you can't write music. So I'm going to assume that all he contributes is the lyrics and his lyrics suck so therefore he isn't a good songwriter. It's called logic, learn it and you should also learn how to properly construct a paragraph and sentence. You should also learn to spell, nothing has a G at the end and there's several other errors I don't feel like pointing out. You have a terrible grasp of the English language, it makes your posts a headache to read.
lol Are u serious? So if ur an artist and you don't play instruments then you can't write music?? lol That was really retarded and its sad if you really believe that. Anybody can write lyrics. You don't need instruments to write lyrics. Once again your just basing YOUR opinions on the only MJ music you've heard. You haven't listened to all his music so whats the point of saying, "his lyrics are crap, this and that... when your only judging one thing and also your relying on "credible sources" to make ur assumptions instead of exactly going out and buying the man's record. LOL is this an english class now? I'm just talking man and spitting the truth and opinions. You said all of that 2 prove what? Your still wondering off topic talkin about crap, so what? Your posts give me a headache to I feel ur pain. What you need to learn is everyone has an opinion and their own taste in what they prefer in music. You just need to accept peoples opinions and stop bashing them and the artist especially if you know little facts about the artist.
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OKay keep relying on those credible sources to decide what music you listen to.That doesn't mean that ALL his music sucks and it only sucks to you and thats YOUR opinion.

Are u serious? So if ur an artist and you don't play instruments then you can't write music?? lol That was really retarded and its sad if you really believe that. Anybody can write lyrics. You don't need instruments to write lyrics. Once again your just basing YOUR opinions on the only MJ music you've heard. You haven't listened to all his music so whats the point of saying, "his lyrics are crap, this and that... when your only judging one thing and also your relying on "credible sources" to make ur assumptions instead of exactly going out and buying the man's record. LOL is this an english class now? I'm just talking man and spitting the truth and opinions. You said all of that 2 prove what? Your still wondering off topic talkin about crap, so what? Your posts give me a headache to I feel ur pain. What you need to learn is everyone has an opinion and their own taste in what they prefer in music. You just need to accept peoples opinions and stop bashing them and the artist especially if you know little facts about the artist.
I wasn't talking about lyrics. I was talking about music. That's the usually structured thing you hear behind the singing and the lyrics. So you admit he only writes the lyrics. Well it isn't that hard to prove a good lyricist writes good lyrics all you have to do is post them. So post those good lyrics Michael Jackson supposedly writes.
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