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Old 01-10-2008, 01:15 AM  
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1. The National's Boxer
Boxer? It made like 11 top ten albums lists and topped at least 2 of them.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:24 AM  
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Boxer? It made like 11 top ten albums lists and topped at least 2 of them.
Um wrong. It was number 1 on one list and in one others top 10. If the criteria for being underrated/overrated is being based on the year end lists I don't see why this needed separate thread since I made that thread so the lists could be, you know, discussed.
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:08 AM  
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Um wrong. It was number 1 on one list and in one others top 10. If the criteria for being underrated/overrated is being based on the year end lists I don't see why this needed separate thread since I made that thread so the lists could be, you know, discussed.
Um, no. It was on the top 10s of:

PopMatters
Billboard (staff consensus)
The Onion AV Club
Delusions of Adequacy
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Paste Magazine (as number ONE)

It was also counted in the Hartford Courant's end of year top 10 at number ONE (though you may consider this unimportant) and was on two of the Austin Chronicle top 10 end of year staff lists (again, perhaps unimportant).

Whatever one's take, that's a fairly substantial degree of recognition.
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Um, no. It was on the top 10s of:

PopMatters
Billboard (staff consensus)
The Onion AV Club
Delusions of Adequacy
Lost At Sea
Filter
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Paste Magazine (as number ONE)

It was also counted in the Hartford Courant's end of year top 10 at number ONE (though you may consider this unimportant) and was on two of the Austin Chronicle top 10 end of year staff lists (again, perhaps unimportant).

Whatever one's take, that's a fairly substantial degree of recognition.
That still doesn't look like 11 and the album isn't very heavily discussed.
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:41 PM  
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That still doesn't look like 11 and the album isn't very heavily discussed.
It's eleven counting those newspaper lists.

I agree with you though that it's not heavily discussed. It was one of the records that got a huge amount of critical attention but relatively little fan attention. Which is a pity, as it's imo a great album. I probably had it spinning more than everything else in 2007, if someone were keeping records.

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If anything was ever blown out of any sensible proportion, Boxer has got to be it...they were in Croatia a few weeks back and I couldn't be bothered to go and see them... It was just that bland...and this is coming from someone who loves Alligator...the only track that's worth a listen is Fake empire. After more than a half a dozen listens I'm still not able to tell you the names of the other songs...they all sound so dreadfully alike...
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If anything was ever blown out of any sensible proportion, Boxer has got to be it...they were in Croatia a few weeks back and I couldn't be bothered to go and see them... It was just that bland...and this is coming from someone who loves Alligator...the only track that's worth a listen is Fake empire. After more than a half a dozen listens I'm still not able to tell you the names of the other songs...they all sound so dreadfully alike...
I remember liking tracks 1 through to 4. Then just nodding off from 5 onwards. This was at first. I gave up. Months later I was about to get rid of the CD altogether when I decided to give it one more try. A few listens, and I was finding that I really liked 5-12 afterall. It was a weird experience. Taught me what "grower" meant...in more drastic ways than previously conceived.
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wilco's blue sky blue was great,.....
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About the Boxer what I was thinking about it was the fact it sold very poorly really...in it's first week of release it sold about 9000 copies and Favourite Worst Nightmare 225000 only in the UK. In the end it may have earned some recognition by some press, but it wasn't really appreciated by the public...I live in Cyprus and shops didn't even bother to order it so people could buy it, and in my opinion along with Neon Bible it was the best record of the year...I mean come on,Timbeland's Shock Value sold 1 mil,I don't have anything against him,but...I think you get my point here.
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