My taste in music is better than yours... (metal, pop)

**cardboard adolescent** · 02-02-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

God please don't start this one up again for the 3,987,845th time.
My opinion has always been if a person has to trot out this turd of an answer to justify anything then it does make me wonder why they signed up to discuss & debate music in the first place.

To find new music in line with their tastes rather
than have to defend the music they already like?

I mean, what if someone forces me to defend my love for
Big Black... they might say "its harsh, cold, abrasive and nihilistic
and its amelodic just a load of noise." I would say sure (for the most part),
but that's why I love them. Everything you say is true,
but for you it makes them "bad" and for me it makes them "good."

This argument should end. Music is subjective. Get over it.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 02-02-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

To find new music in line with their tastes rather
than have to defend the music they already like?

You can do that without getting drawn into an arguement , i've done it myself plenty of times.

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

I mean, what if someone forces me to defend my love for
Big Black... they might say "its harsh, cold, abrasive and nihilistic
and its amelodic just a load of noise." I would say sure (for the most part),
but that's why I love them. Everything you say is true,
but for you it makes them "bad" and for me it makes them "good."

This argument should end. Music is subjective. Get over it.

And that fact should be apparent to anyone with half a brain , which is why I consider it a lazy cop out.

the-ceej · 02-02-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by achoo

it's like this: i don't know much, very little (sadly) about visual art. i know i sometimes look at something and am blown away and thats all that matters, if the heart is on the canvas i'm game. but if someone who was educated in the world of art wanted to teach me what makes something better by explaining the history of art, different techniques i feel my opinion would change and become more intelligent. (whatever intelligence is, but you know).

same thing goes for food and music.

whether a band is good or not depends on their integrity. what they are trying to achieve. is it creative? does it push the boundaries at all? does it offer anything that another band might not? otherwise, whats the ****ing point?

and thats what makes nickleback bad.

somethign like that anyway. i have difficulty articulating my thoughts. but i'm right nonetheless!!

on a side note: i'm not saying that the arts can be brought down to logic because it is just expression, i just feel some bands and some art are expressing themselves more truly then others. and thus i feel they are better.

So as long as a band is creative, they're good? You really don't care if the music is catchy or anything?

"Yeah that band is so original, I love them... I can't stand listening to them for more than 2 minutes, but they're a great band"

**Urban Hatemonger** · 02-02-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by the-ceej

So as long as a band is creative, they're good? You really don't care if the music is catchy or anything?

No it makes them interesting & worthy of my time

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Originally Posted by the-ceej

"Yeah that band is so original, I love them... I can't stand listening to them for more than 2 minutes, but they're a great band"

Just because they are interesting and worthy of my time doesn't automatically make me like them.It just means i'll give them credit for being original.

You never know , a band might take that originality and put their own twist on it that will make me like it. I don't happen to like the Velvet Underground that much however they influenced hundreds of bands that I do like , so I give them credit for that.

**cardboard adolescent** · 02-02-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

You can do that without getting drawn into an arguement , i've done it myself plenty of times.

And that fact should be apparent to anyone with half a brain , which is why I consider it a lazy cop out.

Alright, I can accept that.
I thought you were just totally calling it a bs claim.

the-ceej · 02-02-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

No it makes them interesting & worthy of my time

Just because they are interesting and worthy of my time doesn't automatically make me like them.It just means i'll give them credit for being original.

You never know , a band might take that originality and put their own twist on it that will make me like it. I don't happen to like the Velvet Underground that much however they influenced hundreds of bands that I do like , so I give them credit for that.

That makes sense
touché

~~achoo~~ · 02-04-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

No it makes them interesting & worthy of my time

Just because they are interesting and worthy of my time doesn't automatically make me like them.It just means i'll give them credit for being original.

You never know , a band might take that originality and put their own twist on it that will make me like it. I don't happen to like the Velvet Underground that much however they influenced hundreds of bands that I do like , so I give them credit for that.

thank you urban, you said what i was trying to say.

NoiseNotMusic · 02-04-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by the-ceej

So as long as a band is creative, they're good? You really don't care if the music is catchy or anything?

"Yeah that band is so original, I love them... I can't stand listening to them for more than 2 minutes, but they're a great band"

catchy? lol if that's why you listen to music then just stop.

lucylamppost · 02-04-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Just because they are interesting and worthy of my time doesn't automatically make me like them.It just means i'll give them credit for being original.

Agree there is a lot of talented and creative bands that I just don't like listen to do but it doesn't mean anything at all it's just not my cub of tea .
But I respect them and the people who listen to them

Just like there is a few very non talent bands that I listen to because I enjoy them .

littleknowitall · 02-04-2008, 02:56 PM

If It hasn't been pointed out already the creative spark in the arguements that seem to arise when discussing music and the reason I think people are angry, or aleast some (I do believe some are simply being egotistical or looking to argue) Is that mainstream music these days can in many many instances be a complete mockery of decent music throughout the last 100 years. It is, there's no way anyone can tell me 'well thats just YOUR opinion' It just without a shadow of a doubt is...in terms of its quality, sound, talent, ethics, means of construction, influences, artists, creativity, passion, soul etc. It's just on the whole not as good and I think that just makes some people a little angrier when it comes to discussing music when someone promotes the modern music scene.

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