Worst band on earth? (lead singer, Coldplay, Backstreet Boys, members, quote)

DontRunMeOver · 03-31-2006, 03:06 AM

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Sorta like people thinking that Mercury is the hottest planet in our solar system of that Mt. Everest is the tallest mountain on Earth.

Its not a good analogy, as the second half (given that Mt. Everest is the tallest mountain in the usual sense) would mean that 'somebody who is set on one opinion is correct, according to the usual definition of correct'. The Mercury one possibly is, although I'm not aware of having ever heard somebody say Mercury was the hottest planet. In my experience most people who would bother to say anything about it would already be aware Venus was hottest, but then I haven't really spoken to many people about it...

So the point is a good one, but the analogies aren't particularly good and tangle the point up. Like I've said, I like arguing with you. You skirt around questions a lot, so its fun to prod you until you actually answer them.

**boo boo** · 03-31-2006, 03:06 AM

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We both know the bass it's good, but it's not overly impressive.

No need to repeat myself here.

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Who's the one changing their mind now? I recall you saying that you couldn't understand why I don't like Yes because I like DT. And “boring, emotionless and direction-less?” can someone reading this please tell me what they think of that Hollow Years link I've referred to several times? If they think it's emotionless or whatever, then I'll be concerned.

No need to repeat myself here.

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The strings in “Toxic” are great and um...what was I saying? Yeah, once again you've “flop-flopped,” as you put it, because first you said Yes are inaccessible and now you're saying that being catchy is a part of being good.

Well, melodic should have been the term that i used...Britney Spears at least has some faint idea of what a melody is.

DT are more inaccessible than Yes, primarly because they are nowhere near as good.

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Nah, Bruce ****inson's pretty great. I recall saying Anderson's voice is also weak and fragile, way to ignore that part.

And hes still better than Labrie, and you are a fool if you dont think Labries vocals are weak and fragile.

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Do you even read what you type? Rehashed harmonies?? lol everyone does the typical major 4th or 5th harmonies.

You seriously need to listen to some more prog.

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But my point was just saying that DT have made good harmonies, but you just bring it back to an issue about originality again. And you ignored my ACoS question, so I'm guessing you haven't heard it. It's generally regarded as DT's greatest piece so complaining about DT without hearing that epic masterpiece is close to blasphemy.

I have heard it, like Genesis meets Rush, but without the good stuff.

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And yet, you don't know the difference between the key a song's in and time signatures??? Fire your teacher, then sue them.

I never claimed to be a theory expert, you keep digging yourself a bigger hole everytime you argue with me or anybody for that matter...You make all these lame ass claims that you cant back up, and they have been full of contradictions...Misfits already uncovered your lies about your age, and no one believes that "it was my brother" crap.

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I didn't know someone can be a dumbass for using hyperbole as a form of satire.

I also take it that part about DT doing something new was part of the sarcasm.

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Wow, again you're so witty! I wish I could be like you, and just be locked away in an ignorant world where everyone must like what I like because there isn't another possiblity.

You're such a hypocrite

All you ever do is wave around your "infinete" musical knowledge in front of everybody and usualy try to make them feel like their opinions are inferior to yours because you get paid to review ****ty prog metal albums...Or so you claim...I dont think anyone here actualy buys it.

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But to answer your question: I remember telling you I've heard every Yes album, so I think that means I've heard it? Oh wait a second, no I haven't because my Relayer album didn't contain the first track for some reason

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No DT song touchs Schooldays.

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Later on you say you've heard all of DT's albums though. So now being a liar has been added to your repertoire

I HAVE ALREADY HEARD THEIR ALBUMS.

Why should i download what i already know to be ****?

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Again, helps what? Someone's taste? And you keep saying you like Yes for the music...

I do...What part of that dont you understand, you know damn well i dont listen to bands because of how influencial they are.

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You can't rebut me on a point which I wasn't arguing with you on. You explicitly said: “they[DT] arent doing anything that practicly every other 70s prog band hasnt done before."

Which is all true.

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So you're basically crucifying DT for being 20 years younger than Yes. Let's all be like you and only like bands who are innovative, how fun and close-minded.

People dislike DT because they are uncreative, unimaginative, bland, boring as hell, laughably cheesy, emotion free, overstuffed, overblown, terribly dated, lifeless, poorly composed and full of wank...And even if Yes were all these things, they still get more points for being innovative and for being able to write songs without stealing whole ideas from other bands.

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Ermmm, what's annoying about him? The fact that he has talent and expresses himself in a different way than most of your fav bands besides Symphony X?...

No.

1. He dosent know the meaning of subtlety.
2. His tone downright sucks.
3. He overuses the pinch harmonics to a point where his solos are pyhsicaly unlistenable.

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Romeo's style is quite similar to Petrucci's (although obviously more like Malmtseen's) and he loves Petrucci, so go figure.

I still consider Symphony X a better band overall.

And they are far from one of my favorite bands.

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Nice logic there, I hope you aren't in school, because that'd be a waste of everyone's time, effort, and money.

You dont have to worry, im home schooled now.

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Then don't reply to this, just swallow your pride

You already beat me to it when it comes to swallowing ones pride.

And please just give up already and dont even bother responding, i already have an idea of exactly everything that you are about to say, do us all a favor and leave already...Either that or you can not respond to this, and maybe we can all learn to respect you a little more.

~~Don~~ · 03-31-2006, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

Its not a good analogy, as the second half (given that Mt. Everest is the tallest mountain in the usual sense) would mean that 'somebody who is set on one opinion is correct, according to the usual and tangle the point up

hm that's pretty much what I'm saying. Some people, like you, do get tangled up on words like 'tall' and 'high.' So your knowledge that Everest is the tallest mountain on earth has thus been obscured by a simple misunderstanding of the precise meaning of words. Hence why I said "[people may assume something to be true] for whatever reason."

~~Don~~ · 03-31-2006, 03:35 AM

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And please just give up already and dont even bother responding, i already have an idea of exactly everything that you are about to say, do us all a favor and leave already...Either that or you can not respond to this, and maybe we can all learn to respect you a little more.

I wasn't going to reply, because you just keep going in circles. But that one bit about Spears and melody? I hope you don't think she actually has anything to with the compositions of the songs she sings.

DontRunMeOver · 03-31-2006, 03:45 AM

Yes, I understand that your taking 'tall' to mean distance from the base to the peak and that, if it were used purely in this sense, then Mauna Kea (just looked it up) would be the tallest mountain. However, I shall repeat it again, this is not the way in which the word 'tallest' is typically used for mountains. You can debate the derivations of the word all you want, but for mountains 'tallest' typically means 'highest elevation above sea level'. Yes, in its pure form - as it would relate to comparitive heights of animals/plants/buildings etc. - this word is used inaccurately here, but within the context 'tallest' has become the correct word to describe Everest's height.

Oh, I'll leave it. Don't worry about it.

~~Don~~ · 03-31-2006, 03:51 AM

Okay but what if the question was asked on a quiz show? 'High' would definitely be the word used, and with this whole context thing, that's what I'm saying. When someone says "Mount Everest is the.....mountain on Earth," what goes into the '...' doesn't really matter, which is what you're saying. But if you want to be correct in what you're saying, you need to say high, because it's fact that high and tall have completely different meanings in no matter what context you use them in.

DontRunMeOver · 03-31-2006, 04:03 AM

The core meanings are very different, true, but from what I've seen with the common usage of tall and high to describe mountains, hills etc. 'tall' is often used in place of 'high'. Using proper by-the-book English this is, I agree, incorrect. In more common usage, I shall repeat again the most common definition for the 'tallest' mountain is that which has the highest elevation above sea-level. Accepting this doesn't mean that you don't understand or respect the difference between 'tall' and 'high' as they are meant to be used, but it does show that you understand how they ARE used in certain situations.

In a quiz show they would say 'high', true. That's because 'tall' would be ambiguous, not wrong. It would be ambiguous because there are a variety of interpretations of the word in the context, only one of which is the same as 'high'.

"How high is that mountain?","We'll it jus' smoke a big bag o' weed and then ate ten bags of chees'n'onion...If it ain't already real high it sure gonna be soon"

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I'm going to Cornwall now. Catch you guys later. Don, I'm going to find some music to argue about with you sometime... instead of having these ridiculous language debates.

**boo boo** · 03-31-2006, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Don

I wasn't going to reply, because you just keep going in circles. But that one bit about Spears and melody? I hope you don't think she actually has anything to with the compositions of the songs she sings.

She does have a small role on writing some of her compositions...Regardless i can tollerate her music more.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 03-31-2006, 07:16 AM

Jesus wept, is this still going ?

**right-track** · 03-31-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Jesus wept, is this still going ?

Mountains out of mole hills.

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03-31-2006, 03:51 AM
~~Don~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 646	Okay but what if the question was asked on a quiz show? 'High' would definitely be the word used, and with this whole context thing, that's what I'm saying. When someone says "Mount Everest is the.....mountain on Earth," what goes into the '...' doesn't really matter, which is what you're saying. But if you want to be correct in what you're saying, you need to say high, because it's fact that high and tall have completely different meanings in no matter what context you use them in.