What's better/do you prefer. Rock, or PRE-Rock? (blues, jazz)

Rainard Jalen · 05-31-2008, 11:40 AM

By rock I mean the music that emerged from blues/rhythm&blues/rock'n'roll which developed in the 1960s+ era and continued to up to the present date. I'm including all major genre categories that emerged out of rock, like punk, metal, etc.

By PRE-Rock, I'm talking about any pre-1960s pop music so it could be Vaudeville, Music Hall, big-band/swing, ragtime, cabaret, vocal group, the whole gamut of oldies pop.

So, which is better? What do you prefer?

Personally, a large part of me gravitates towards pre-rock music, because it's generally much more focused on creating great, catchy and memorable melodies.

Loser · 05-31-2008, 11:47 AM

I never heard the term "pre rock" ever used before...But I like ROCK, it was the opening to the genres today. Without it I doubt Pre-Rock would be around.

Strummer521 · 05-31-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Loser

Without it I doubt Pre-Rock would be around.

That doesn't...make sense.

Loser · 05-31-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Strummer521

That doesn't...make sense.

Rock was around before PRE-rock, if i'm not mistaken.

moshforjesus33 · 05-31-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Loser

Without it I doubt Pre-Rock would be around.

So Duke Ellington and Benny Goodman wouldn't be around without Chuck Berry and Little Richard?

makes perfect sense to me

Rainard Jalen · 05-31-2008, 12:14 PM

Loser, what are you talking about? I'm talking about the music that existed BEFORE rock. Pre-1960s pop music going all the way through the first half of the 20th century. What was so vague about how I put it in the opening?

**boo boo** · 05-31-2008, 01:47 PM

I have taken an interest in styles like Ragtime, Vaudville and Music Hall since some bands I'm into draw influence form them. I especially see theses styles popping up in prog rock pretty often.

And Big Band/Swing music is just awesome. Its one of the most uplifting kinds of music there is.

blackloulis · 05-31-2008, 02:03 PM

Rock

Rainard Jalen · 05-31-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I have taken an interest in styles like Ragtime, Vaudville and Music Hall since some bands I'm into draw influence form them. I especially see theses styles popping up in prog rock pretty often.

And Big Band/Swing music is just awesome. Its one of the most uplifting kinds of music there is.

Isn't it though? I was just listening to Chattanooga Choo Choo earlier...

I reckon we should have a forum dedicated to the whole gamut of Oldies.

**boo boo** · 05-31-2008, 03:06 PM

Yeah, but Big Band/Swing and Ragtime can fall under Jazz. Vaudville could probably fall under folk, Music Hall is pop.

I don't think a "old time music" section would attract a lot of people, it would be dead from the start.

05-31-2008, 11:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,128	What's better/do you prefer. Rock, or PRE-Rock? By rock I mean the music that emerged from blues/rhythm&blues/rock'n'roll which developed in the 1960s+ era and continued to up to the present date. I'm including all major genre categories that emerged out of rock, like punk, metal, etc. By PRE-Rock, I'm talking about any pre-1960s pop music so it could be Vaudeville, Music Hall, big-band/swing, ragtime, cabaret, vocal group, the whole gamut of oldies pop. So, which is better? What do you prefer? Personally, a large part of me gravitates towards pre-rock music, because it's generally much more focused on creating great, catchy and memorable melodies.

05-31-2008, 11:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
Loser The Professor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 1,119	I never heard the term "pre rock" ever used before...But I like ROCK, it was the opening to the genres today. Without it I doubt Pre-Rock would be around. __________________ "It's just so fuckin' weird. You write about this shit, and you're suddenly the spokesman for a fuckin' generation,...... Any generation that would pick Kurt or me as its spokesman -- that must be a pretty fucked up generation, don't you think?"

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boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 9,294	I have taken an interest in styles like Ragtime, Vaudville and Music Hall since some bands I'm into draw influence form them. I especially see theses styles popping up in prog rock pretty often. And Big Band/Swing music is just awesome. Its one of the most uplifting kinds of music there is. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

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boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 9,294	Yeah, but Big Band/Swing and Ragtime can fall under Jazz. Vaudville could probably fall under folk, Music Hall is pop. I don't think a "old time music" section would attract a lot of people, it would be dead from the start. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

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05-31-2008, 12:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,128	Loser, what are you talking about? I'm talking about the music that existed BEFORE rock. Pre-1960s pop music going all the way through the first half of the 20th century. What was so vague about how I put it in the opening?

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