Legal Questions: Writing Lyrics Over Instrumentals (rap, copyright, myspace, track)

slickhare · 07-03-2008, 03:26 PM

So as a present to a special someone, I'm writing some lyrics over an instrumental of a popular song, but I was wondering if this is legal? I'm not going to be selling this track even if I do exhibit it publicly on Myspace, Youtube, etc. but will I run into legal issues even if I explicitly say that i do not claim to have created the instrumental myself?

mr dave · 07-03-2008, 03:46 PM

depends on how uptight the original copyright holders are. i'm pretty certain myspace and youtube count as public broadcasts / performances.

a disclaimer wouldn't clear you of potential legal repercussions, although the worse you'll probably get is a cease and desist letter which is basically just means you have to take it down.

slickhare · 07-03-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

depends on how uptight the original copyright holders are. i'm pretty certain myspace and youtube count as public broadcasts / performances.

a disclaimer wouldn't clear you of potential legal repercussions, although the worse you'll probably get is a cease and desist letter which is basically just means you have to take it down.

but there's nothing wrong with recording over something for private use then right?

mr dave · 07-04-2008, 05:16 AM

what they don't know won't hurt them and shouldn't hurt you hehe

Rainard Jalen · 07-04-2008, 05:57 AM

This is kinda what rap mixtapes are, they'll just take anything they so wish, cut the vocals and rap over it. Of course it's technically illegal, but rarely prosecuted?

Above all though, if you have any semblance of being a sensible person you should NOT be asking sensitive legal questions on an internet music board. Advice: go see a bleedin' lawyer. Pronto.

The Unfan · 07-04-2008, 02:23 PM

Actually, this is 100% legal as long as you don't make profit from it.

Edit for clarification: Sampling is legal as long as the original source is creditted and royalties are paid for. If there is zero profit made there is no royalty to pay for.

Rainard Jalen · 07-04-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

Actually, this is 100% legal as long as you don't make profit from it.

Edit for clarification: Sampling is legal as long as the original source is creditted and royalties are paid for. If there is zero profit made there is no royalty to pay for.

What's your source for that? Surely any profit involved must involve express permission to use it in the first place.

**right-track** · 07-04-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slickhare

So as a present to a special someone, I'm writing some lyrics over an instrumental of a popular song, but I was wondering if this is legal? I'm not going to be selling this track even if I do exhibit it publicly on Myspace, Youtube, etc. but will I run into legal issues even if I explicitly say that i do not claim to have created the instrumental myself?

I doubt they'll even notice nor even care...with respect.
Do it.

slickhare · 07-05-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Above all though, if you have any semblance of being a sensible person you should NOT be asking sensitive legal questions on an internet music board. Advice: go see a bleedin' lawyer. Pronto.

Well no one's contacted me (mainly because I didn't even do it yet, and it's not up anywhere). So it's not a pressing matter.

Not to mention, I see lot's of small time artists, who I'm pretty sure wouldn't be able to pay for rights to an instrumental, who have mixtapes chock full of freestyles over mainstream beats. But that doesn't make it legal, as it's been clarified here. So I wanted to make sure.*edit* they don't sell the mixtapes though, so i just wanted to make sure.

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07-03-2008, 03:26 PM
slickhare Groupie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 14	Legal Questions: Writing Lyrics Over Instrumentals So as a present to a special someone, I'm writing some lyrics over an instrumental of a popular song, but I was wondering if this is legal? I'm not going to be selling this track even if I do exhibit it publicly on Myspace, Youtube, etc. but will I run into legal issues even if I explicitly say that i do not claim to have created the instrumental myself?

07-03-2008, 03:46 PM
mr dave Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: everywhere Posts: 537	depends on how uptight the original copyright holders are. i'm pretty certain myspace and youtube count as public broadcasts / performances. a disclaimer wouldn't clear you of potential legal repercussions, although the worse you'll probably get is a cease and desist letter which is basically just means you have to take it down. __________________ i am the universe http://www.myspace.com/wallofpanda

07-04-2008, 05:16 AM
mr dave Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: everywhere Posts: 537	what they don't know won't hurt them and shouldn't hurt you hehe __________________ i am the universe http://www.myspace.com/wallofpanda

07-04-2008, 05:57 AM
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,719	This is kinda what rap mixtapes are, they'll just take anything they so wish, cut the vocals and rap over it. Of course it's technically illegal, but rarely prosecuted? Above all though, if you have any semblance of being a sensible person you should NOT be asking sensitive legal questions on an internet music board. Advice: go see a bleedin' lawyer. Pronto.

07-04-2008, 02:23 PM
The Unfan A Nymphoid Barbarian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dinosaur Hell Posts: 1,077	Actually, this is 100% legal as long as you don't make profit from it. Edit for clarification: Sampling is legal as long as the original source is creditted and royalties are paid for. If there is zero profit made there is no royalty to pay for. __________________ <3_BEAUTIFUL_HELL_FAIRY_<3: I Hate Logic Last edited by The Unfan : 07-04-2008 at 02:28 PM.