Is racism REALLY that relevant in music? (blues, dance, hardcore)

**boo boo** · 07-23-2008, 03:36 PM

So yeah, todays lession is... a lot of great musicians are racists.

Oh and Morrissey too.

**Piss Me Off** · 07-23-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Clapton and Costello were both apparrently drunk when they made these statements, to be fair.

There was also something David Bowie said that set people off, but he's always been trying to offend people, and he married a black woman so ehhhhhhh...

Didn't he dress up Hitler-esque at some point and do salutes?

**boo boo** · 07-23-2008, 04:25 PM

Bah. That was just him being all shock rock.

WolfAtTheDoor · 07-23-2008, 05:50 PM

It humours me how quick these artists go back on their statements, such as Morrissey's statement after his 'reggae is vile' rant.

It ruins their mystique as artists and shows them for the snivelling media hounds that they are. Racism is wrong, yes. But if you are racist, then don't go and ****ing pretend that you're not. And if you are then shut up about it for your own sake. And ESPECIALLY don't attempt to redeem yourself by suddenly spouting off little nuggets of information like 'but I've grown up with black music!!'

However I also think that some of his statements are true, and if he had not gone on to claim how (tongue in cheek or not) by law everything in the charts has to be black music, then I feel he would have had a feasible point of view. Not every form of racism is against black people...

**Seltzer** · 07-23-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo

Clapton and Costello were both apparrently drunk when they made these statements, to be fair.

There was also something David Bowie said that set people off, but he's always been trying to offend people, and he married a black woman so ehhhhhhh...

And I believe his current bassist is Gail Ann Dorsey.

**boo boo** · 07-23-2008, 07:31 PM

Cartman: Token, how many times do we have to go through this? You're black, you can play bass.

WaspStar · 07-24-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Clapton and Costello were both apparrently drunk when they made these statements, to be fair.

I really can't comment about Clapton (never heard of it before this thread, actually), but as far as Costello goes, not only was he drunk (and exhausted from a trying tour of the States), the whole incident was blown out of proportion by Rolling Stone mag, among others. Considering that Costello was greatly influenced by many black artists, I think it's pretty safe to assume that his comments really shouldn't have been taken as seriously as they were. The whole incident was something of an excuse for holier-than-thou journalists to have a few digs at the new "punk" kid.

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07-23-2008, 03:36 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,278	So yeah, todays lession is... a lot of great musicians are racists. Oh and Morrissey too. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

07-23-2008, 04:25 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,278	Bah. That was just him being all shock rock. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

07-23-2008, 05:50 PM
WolfAtTheDoor never, eh? Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 100	It humours me how quick these artists go back on their statements, such as Morrissey's statement after his 'reggae is vile' rant. It ruins their mystique as artists and shows them for the snivelling media hounds that they are. Racism is wrong, yes. But if you are racist, then don't go and ****ing pretend that you're not. And if you are then shut up about it for your own sake. And ESPECIALLY don't attempt to redeem yourself by suddenly spouting off little nuggets of information like 'but I've grown up with black music!!' However I also think that some of his statements are true, and if he had not gone on to claim how (tongue in cheek or not) by law everything in the charts has to be black music, then I feel he would have had a feasible point of view. Not every form of racism is against black people...

07-23-2008, 07:31 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,278	Cartman: Token, how many times do we have to go through this? You're black, you can play bass. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/