An Infinite Number Of Things That Pisses Me Off About Music

Zarko · 10-12-2008, 03:45 AM

I respect anyone that puts ABBA in their top ten list once let alone twice

WaspStar · 10-12-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel

Thank you. I used to think like that in like 9th grade, but then it hit me-would it make any sense at all if something like music, that's been expressing the human spirit better than anything else for thousands of years suddenly ended after (insert last great record someone has in their collection and assumes everything after blew)? It doesnt make sense, music will always be great, and it will always be presented in different ways, and thank CHRIST I figured that out, or Id be stuck with DSOTM on repeat for the rest of my life like all the classic rock bores.

Folly of youth, I guess; until a few years ago, I was also convinced that no one had made anything good since the 60's. Then I heard the Sex Pistols and The Clash and revised that opinion to read "no one's done anything good since the 70's." Then I heard Echo & The Bunnymen and realized that I'd spent the past eighteen years being an ignorant wanker and that I shuold just shut the fuck up and spend time trying to find decent music instead of whining about how there haven't been any good bands since Keith Moon died.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

10 : Politicians Who Use Music To Show How 'Down With the Kids' They Are

You forgot to mention the worst travesty of all; Ronald Reagan appropriating Born In The USA as some sort of patriotic anthem. Jesus, people really don't listen to the lyrics!

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

9 : Special Editions Of Albums That Are Released Just A Few Months After the Original Album

Thank you! I refused to buy the "American Land" edition of The Seeger Sessions after I'd gone to the store three months earlier and paid full price for the normal album. What happened to taking care of your fans, Bruce?

**Urban Hatemonger** · 10-12-2008, 10:32 AM

7 : The Fall

Bet you weren't expecting to see them here.

As a fan of The Fall I am in a constant turmoil. You see there are times when I listen to the band and I really wish they were more like a conventional band. I would love nothing more to see Mark E Smith go out and do a tour where he plays a greatest hits set , records it properly and releases it as a double live album instead of having a constant stream of badly recorded live stuff that only covers about 2 or 3 albums. I wondered why it was that I should have so few Fall bootlegs considering I love the band so much. And then I realised it was because Smith has pretty much released them all officially.
Smith doesn't do looking back into the past. The Fall's live shows are dominated by whatever 2 albums they just recorded plus a load of stuff you won't here till the next album comes out. But he'll tease you by throwing in one classic from the past. Recently it was 'Wings' off Perverted By Language , before that it was 'The Man Who's Head Expanded' and he's been known to throw in 'New Big Prinz' off the Kurious Oranj album as well. It's like teasing you with scraps , he knows people really want to hear this stuff but to him it's what he's doing now thats important , and so it should be. I'd also love to see him do some collaborations , some of the stuff he's done with other people has been brilliant , but he's never done it with The Fall. The whole beauty of the Fall is him finding these musicians off the street , throwing them into the band without even bothering with auditions or practice and just see what happens. It might sound amateurish or ramshackle but it makes them still one of the most spontaneous & compelling bands around still even after 30 years.

But the biggest irony in all this is if they were ever to become a more conventional band it would destroy everything that is special about the band. It would stop them being most uncompromising & unique band around and it would stop them being everything that they go against.
And that is the most frustrating thing at all.

Bulldog · 10-12-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

7 : The Fall

Bet you weren't expecting to see them here.

As a fan of The Fall I am in a constant turmoil. You see there are times when I listen to the band and I really wish they were more like a conventional band. I would love nothing more to see Mark E Smith go out and do a tour where he plays a greatest hits set , records it properly and releases it as a double live album instead of having a constant stream of badly recorded live stuff that only covers about 2 or 3 albums. I wondered why it was that I should have so few Fall bootlegs considering I love the band so much. And then I realised it was because Smith has pretty much released them all officially.
Smith doesn't do looking back into the past. The Fall's live shows are dominated by whatever 2 albums they just recorded plus a load of stuff you won't here till the next album comes out. But he'll tease you by throwing in one classic from the past. Recently it was 'Wings' off Perverted By Language , before that it was 'The Man Who's Head Expanded' and he's been known to throw in 'New Big Prinz' off the Kurious Oranj album as well. It's like teasing you with scraps , he knows people really want to hear this stuff but to him it's what he's doing now thats important , and so it should be. I'd also love to see him do some collaborations , some of the stuff he's done with other people has been brilliant , but he's never done it with The Fall. The whole beauty of the Fall is him finding these musicians off the street , throwing them into the band without even bothering with auditions or practice and just see what happens. It might sound amateurish or ramshackle but it makes them still one of the most spontaneous & compelling bands around still even after 30 years.

But the biggest irony in all this is if they were ever to become a more conventional band it would destroy everything that is special about the band. It would stop them being most uncompromising & unique band around and it would stop them being everything that they go against.
And that is the most frustrating thing at all.

Agreed. I'd have given anything to hear even the opening bars of Cruiser's Creek when I saw them live a few years back, or to hear them close the set with Music Scene. Luckily when I saw them they were touring Fall Heads Roll, so it was still a great gig

Meph1986 · 10-12-2008, 10:42 AM

Minstrel · 10-12-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Apparently a young David Cameron's favourite band ever was The Smiths. I know this because he keeps on going on about it all the time , so much so he decided to visit the Salford Lads Club , as seen on the inside cover of The Queen Is dead. And many LOLS were had when the local Labour party showed up and protested about his visit and stopped him getting a publicity shot outside the building.
I'm sure i'm not the only one who wonders why , if he was indeed such a fan of the band that meant so much to him why on earth he would become a Thatcherite and join the Tory party. Somehow I get the impression he may have slighty missed the point somewhere.

Wonder what Cameron thought of "Margaret On The Guilloutine."

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

7 : The Fall

Bet you weren't expecting to see them here.

As a fan of The Fall I am in a constant turmoil. You see there are times when I listen to the band and I really wish they were more like a conventional band. I would love nothing more to see Mark E Smith go out and do a tour where he plays a greatest hits set , records it properly and releases it as a double live album instead of having a constant stream of badly recorded live stuff that only covers about 2 or 3 albums. I wondered why it was that I should have so few Fall bootlegs considering I love the band so much. And then I realised it was because Smith has pretty much released them all officially.
Smith doesn't do looking back into the past. The Fall's live shows are dominated by whatever 2 albums they just recorded plus a load of stuff you won't here till the next album comes out. But he'll tease you by throwing in one classic from the past. Recently it was 'Wings' off Perverted By Language , before that it was 'The Man Who's Head Expanded' and he's been known to throw in 'New Big Prinz' off the Kurious Oranj album as well. It's like teasing you with scraps , he knows people really want to hear this stuff but to him it's what he's doing now thats important , and so it should be. I'd also love to see him do some collaborations , some of the stuff he's done with other people has been brilliant , but he's never done it with The Fall. The whole beauty of the Fall is him finding these musicians off the street , throwing them into the band without even bothering with auditions or practice and just see what happens. It might sound amateurish or ramshackle but it makes them still one of the most spontaneous & compelling bands around still even after 30 years.

But the biggest irony in all this is if they were ever to become a more conventional band it would destroy everything that is special about the band. It would stop them being most uncompromising & unique band around and it would stop them being everything that they go against.
And that is the most frustrating thing at all.

So #7:

"The Fall

I really love them. I wish they did some thing differently, but I totally see why they don't and more power to them. That's what makes them awesome. What was I talking about? I forget. Anyway, the Fall are #7 of best things on Earth (bet you thought they'd be #1)."

Fascinating addition to this list.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 10-13-2008, 12:05 PM

6 : The "You Can't Say That About That, It's A Classic" Brigade

I don't care who you are or how good your album or song is , fact of the matter is it has a shelf life. Yes , even the stuff I enjoy myself has a shelf life.

I mean several years ago I used to listen to Elephant 6 stuff on a regular basis. After a couple of years I got bored of it and have hardly listened to it since. Now I don't say anything bad about this stuff because i'm not under a constant barrage of hearing it all the time and I didn't dislike it to start with.

Now I probably hear stuff like Led Zeppelin , Queen , The Eagles , Guns n Roses , U2 or Coldplay much much more than some of the stuff I choose to listen to. If your in a workplace with a radio on you can't avoid this stuff so why the hell shouldn't I be allowed to moan about it once in a while?
I don't dislike Stairway to Heaven or Bohemian Rhapsody or Hotel California or Where The Streets Have No Name or Another Brick In The Wall to appear cool or hip or edgy or to make my own taste in music look superior. I dislike them because i'm bored of hearing them and i'm bored of being told how great they are. I mean i've had to put up with some of this stuff since fucking childhood so can you blame me for wanting to cause bodily harm to anyone playing them. I mean how many fucking times do you need to hear them.

And when someone replied to me 'You can't say that it's a classic'
Just hold me back or have an ambulance standing by.

dac · 10-13-2008, 12:13 PM

amen, i've grown to despise Hotel California

**Urban Hatemonger** · 10-13-2008, 01:06 PM

The countdown from 5 to 1 WILL be in order

Meph1986 · 10-13-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

6 : The "You Can't Say That About That, It's A Classic" Brigade

Agree. I love Led Zeppelin but if I hear Stairway or Whole Lotta Lovin on the radio I change it to another station.

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