Music Banter Hall Of Fame: Nominations Thread (lyric, techno, indie)

lucifer_sam · 08-11-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo

They're doomed.

But seriously, you should skip those two, get Close to the Edge and Relayer instead, but if you've already heard them, get Going for the One and Drama. Tales is a fave of mine but I'm pretty iffy about actually recommending it to anyone.

Anything post 90125/pre The Ladder should be avoided at all costs.

Already have CTTE (and I actually didn't pirate it). Thanks for the recommendations. It's still gonna take a while to digest them.

**boo boo** · 08-11-2008, 02:23 PM

Just a warning, their late 80s and 90s stuff is hella awful.

Big Generator is probably the biggest turd they've ever squeezed out.

**jackhammer** · 08-11-2008, 02:26 PM

I am undecided about Yes (I know a couple of mods are probably already decided

. The reason is that I do like them.They have some great tracks in their time and are great musicians. Unfortunately they also represent a side of Prog that does'nt appeal to me and that is the bloated bombastic noodlings and sometimes I just want to hear a good tune. I will think on this one.

**boo boo** · 08-11-2008, 02:32 PM

With prog I like to think of it as being made up of two main categories, the cool stuff (Can, Roxy Music, Hawkwind) and the nerdy stuff (King Crimson, Yes, Genesis).

Also, what Yes material do you like and don't like from what you've heard? They do have some good albums that are a bit more basic than their more popular works.

**jackhammer** · 08-11-2008, 02:50 PM

Like:
Close To The Edge
Tormato (yes I know)
The Yes Album
Fragile
90125
Talk (half of it was good)

Don't:
I played Tales once and that was years ago admittedly. Trouble is that I have so much music backed up to get through.

**boo boo** · 08-11-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer

Like:
Close To The Edge
Tormato (yes I know)
The Yes Album
Fragile
90125
Talk (half of it was good).

Talk? Well it's good to know that you're not too discriminating then.

Here some other albums worth checking out.

Time and a Word: This was before Howe joined the band, when Peter Banks was their guitarist. They used orchestration for most of the album, similar to what The Moody Blues did with Days of Future Passed. The songs here are short (by Yes standards) and are more along the lines of Beatles-esque pop songs than the prog that they would establish with The Yes Album, but it's pretty good.

Relayer: I can't promise that you would like this one, I will say that it's very different from anything else they've done. Probably their most challenging work after Tales. Really frantic off the wall stuff, a lot more moog than the usual Yes stuff and Howe plays pedal steel for most of the album, the production is a little unpolished compared to their other stuff.

Going for the One: This forshadows the more polished production sound they would adopt with Tormato but it's way better. Some of the best keyboard work Wakeman has ever done with them.

Drama: This is the one they did without Jon Anderson, though Trevor Horn does a pretty damn good impersonation of him. Like 90125, but proggier.

Magnification: Their most recent album, they didn't use a keyboardist for this album and instead used a symphony orchestra. The songs here aren't really prog songs, everyones really laid back and theres no real noodling to be heard, just really good pop songs with a classical flavor.

**jackhammer** · 08-11-2008, 03:27 PM

I will give Relayer and Going For The One a listen which should then shape my answer.

**boo boo** · 08-11-2008, 03:37 PM

I do have to warn you about Relayer, it's one of my favorites now but it took me a couple of listens. Gates of Delirium and Soundchaser are considered the most inaccessible pieces of music they've ever done. Gates especially, it's a 20 minute long song about an epic battle and it's a very challenging listen, you'll either love it or hate it.

I certainly don't think you'll consider this one boring though.

Oh, and one more thing, theres a certain part during Soundchaser where Jon Anderson sings "cha cha cha, cha cha" repetitively. Just so you know.

Double X · 08-11-2008, 03:41 PM

I like Genesis more for classical prog so I rarely listen to them. Fragile is alright tho.

**boo boo** · 08-11-2008, 03:48 PM

My favorite Yes album has alternated between Fragile and Close to the Edge.

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08-11-2008, 02:23 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,278	Just a warning, their late 80s and 90s stuff is hella awful. Big Generator is probably the biggest turd they've ever squeezed out. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

08-11-2008, 02:26 PM
jackhammer Bald and proud. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 7,249	I am undecided about Yes (I know a couple of mods are probably already decided . The reason is that I do like them.They have some great tracks in their time and are great musicians. Unfortunately they also represent a side of Prog that does'nt appeal to me and that is the bloated bombastic noodlings and sometimes I just want to hear a good tune. I will think on this one. __________________ My music collection.cough cough enjoy. Ha Ha charade you are. My dvd collection.

08-11-2008, 02:32 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,278	With prog I like to think of it as being made up of two main categories, the cool stuff (Can, Roxy Music, Hawkwind) and the nerdy stuff (King Crimson, Yes, Genesis). Also, what Yes material do you like and don't like from what you've heard? They do have some good albums that are a bit more basic than their more popular works. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

08-11-2008, 02:50 PM
jackhammer Bald and proud. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 7,249	Like: Close To The Edge Tormato (yes I know) The Yes Album Fragile 90125 Talk (half of it was good) Don't: I played Tales once and that was years ago admittedly. Trouble is that I have so much music backed up to get through. __________________ My music collection.cough cough enjoy. Ha Ha charade you are. My dvd collection.

08-11-2008, 03:27 PM
jackhammer Bald and proud. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 7,249	I will give Relayer and Going For The One a listen which should then shape my answer. __________________ My music collection.cough cough enjoy. Ha Ha charade you are. My dvd collection.

08-11-2008, 03:37 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,278	I do have to warn you about Relayer, it's one of my favorites now but it took me a couple of listens. Gates of Delirium and Soundchaser are considered the most inaccessible pieces of music they've ever done. Gates especially, it's a 20 minute long song about an epic battle and it's a very challenging listen, you'll either love it or hate it. I certainly don't think you'll consider this one boring though. Oh, and one more thing, theres a certain part during Soundchaser where Jon Anderson sings "cha cha cha, cha cha" repetitively. Just so you know. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/

08-11-2008, 03:41 PM
Double X Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Eastern Massachusetts Posts: 593	I like Genesis more for classical prog so I rarely listen to them. Fragile is alright tho. __________________

08-11-2008, 03:48 PM
boo boo Dr. Prunk Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where the buffalo roam. Posts: 7,278	My favorite Yes album has alternated between Fragile and Close to the Edge. __________________ http://www.progarchives.com/