blackdragon123

Well i only actually own 3 solo Ozzy records so it's not an area i specialise in. But on all 3 that i own (Diary of a Madman, Black Rain, Scream) the albums tend to start very strong but taper off with a few filler tracks in the middle. Something that i dont think Sabbath ever really suffered from.

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OccultHawk

Any of the first five Sabbath records alone is worth all Dio Sabbth and solo Ozzy put together times 10000000000000 big number

Even just one song

War Pigs is worth a million Dios

Sorry but I had to say it

Early Sabbath vs these other ideas can't even match

If you don't see early Sabbath's supremacy it's not even worthwhile to hear your opinion

TheBig3

I see. I don't look at it from a point v. point angle, I tend to look at it and think "what appeals most to me?"

For me, I want something that bring a little more intensity, and sabbath is just a little too...slow? for me? I'm not sure. I think they're very good, but there wasn't a whole host of bloodlust in BS for me. Ozzy seemed to have much quicker pace, and thats what I want in my rock music. Get that blood pumping.

Being scary is for goth theater majors.

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TheBig3

I'd agree. It would be akin to not reading the original question and answering a different one or something absurd like that.

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blackdragon123

I think that the early working relationship between Ozzy/Iommi/Geezer & Bill has a certain poignancy that could only have flourished from growing up together in the ruined streets of postwar Aston, and that relationship does add a degree of superiority. But that's not to say that overall the Dio era or Ozzy's solo career can't compete

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If my songs become my freedom/
And my freedom turns to gold/
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If the answer could be sold - Black Sabbath

blackdragon123

I'll admit I felt the appeal of Ozzy's solo career before i did Sabbath's. But over all i do sense a certain superficial element to Ozzy's songs that i don't feel with Sabbath. But when it comes to heavy, Dehumanizer by Dio's second era with Sabbath is a heavy fast record, that some may sceptically view as Sabbath's attempt to compete with bands like Metallica and Megadeth but still stands pretty steady on its own

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If the answer could be sold - Black Sabbath

Ki

This is nearly exactly the same reason why I prefer solo Ozzy to anything Black Sabbath.

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Screen13

I feel that it would have been more equal if it were between 80's Dio Sabbath and Ozzy's albums with Randy Rhodes. I would have voted for The Blizzard of Ozz right there and then, but...

I voted Dio Sabbath.

While I agree that Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman are excellent albums that should have been the start of a great solo life for Ozzy, the TV shows and a lot of what went on with the re-mastering of his work, sank a potentially great era for him that at least had a very good start through The 80's. On the great side, however, the musicians on his albums were great, and when it came to Post-Sabbath Ozzy, nobody could compare to Randy Rhodes (Stated over and over again, but the proof is in the music). Still, I think the major slide started with Ozzmosis, and although that's after a very good run, a lot of the media stuff that has kept his name alive has cheapened a lot of the fine Solo music he helped create. Yes, the re-masters are a sore spot with me.

Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules are fine Metal albums in their own right and were very surprising to a lot of people who heard any Post-Never Say Die Sabbath to have a staying power, which I feel is part of the reason why some listeners seriously highly rate that era as they kept a leading name alive with good quality music. Dio was a great showman and his vocals suited the material well. Although they are no match for the first four Sabbath albums, the 80's Dio era Sabbath albums were important steps to Dio. Dehumanizer was a good return.

Franco Pepe Kalle

I am going with Solo Ozzy. He was able to be more of himself.

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I'm kind of thinking quite possibly, FPK (not to be confused with Franco, or Pepe Kalle) is a minion for Franco, and his underlord Pepe Kalle, and if you listen to his music he steals your soul.

Nice try Franco, nice try.

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blackdragon123

One of the things that puts me off voting for solo Ozzy is when i read or see interviews where he states that he "can't remember" making albums like Diary of a Madman although it's fascinating to listen to music that was made in a forgotten state of mind. It's not necessarily Ozzy being himself

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If my songs become my freedom/
And my freedom turns to gold/
Then I'll ask the final question/
If the answer could be sold - Black Sabbath