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View Poll Results: Which is worse?
Banality, contrivance, cliché or sentimentality (etc.) 15 68.18%
Abstraction, dissonance, "cacophony" or abrasiveness (etc.) 7 31.82%
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Old 11-01-2016, 11:51 AM   #21 (permalink)
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a) Banality, contrivance, cliché or sentimentality (etc.)
b) Abstraction, dissonance, "cacophony" or abrasiveness (etc.)
Man, I don't ****in' know. At the very least I am not at all turned off by a) whereas I am often repelled by b), but I guess b) makes up most of the music I listen to, so... I don't ****in' know, man.
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Old 11-01-2016, 12:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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At the very least I am not at all turned off by a)
Not even that fucking song from Titanic?
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Not even that fucking song from Titanic?
That song has about twenty seconds in total of being mildly entertaining, but the rest of it falls short of all of those categories since "boring" wasn't included in the OP.
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Old 11-01-2016, 02:21 PM   #24 (permalink)
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That song has about twenty seconds in total of being mildly entertaining, but the rest of it falls short of all of those categories since "boring" wasn't included in the OP.
I think it fits squarely under the category of "banal".
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But it doesn't suck cause it's unoriginal, it sucks cause it's just dull. There's no particular way to describe its dullness other than just being dull.
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That song has about twenty seconds in total of being mildly entertaining, but the rest of it falls short of all of those categories since "boring" wasn't included in the OP.
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But it doesn't suck cause it's unoriginal, it sucks cause it's just dull. There's no particular way to describe its dullness other than just being dull.
fyi there is an "etc." in parentheses in the poll options, so that could fit under there, but words like "boring" or "dull" can go both ways, (or potentially apply to both a and b) depending on your subjective taste, so that's why I din't include them. Giving an answer to the poll would be more about for what reason you think it's "dull" or something like that. I would be bored by "My heart will go on" for the reasons listed under a) (or associated terms), which in turn edges me towards giving the first answer to the poll.
So it really comes down to whether you dislike it for those kind of reasons or different reasons altogether. If the former is the case, it would depend what puts you off the most between something like the Titanic song and for example the Penderecki piece I posted on the previous page.
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But it doesn't suck cause it's unoriginal, it sucks cause it's just dull. There's no particular way to describe its dullness other than just being dull.
It's dull because of how unoriginal it is.
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It's dull because of how unoriginal it is.
But even the original would have been dull.
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Can't decide either, I know it's a matter of taste but to me both can sound equaliy ****y or good. Non of these qualities turn me of per se.
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Old 11-13-2016, 04:59 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Abrasiveness side of things I like less than the sentimental side, just because if you don't have anything nice to sing, don't sing anything at all. Also, swear words which are out of place and unnecessary. Unless, you know your point that you're portraying in the music.
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