The Indie Education Thread (lyrics, singer, depeche mode, electronic, alternative)

ProggyMan · 09-26-2007, 08:24 PM

I"m not saying there aren't tons of bands that put creative freedom over a few bucks, but I doubt there are any who wouldn't trade in their indie respect for Maroon 5 level success. See what I'm saying?

swim · 09-26-2007, 08:26 PM

Because success is measured in the amount of people who listen to you?

**JayJamJah** · 09-26-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Because success is measured in the amount of people who listen to you?

Yes 100%.

Perhaps not to each individual personally, in fact more often then not probably not.

But in terms of perception of success yes 100% and perception is reality.

The point of making music is sharing it with feel and sharing the impact it can have, so obviously the more people you expose your sound to the higher the potential for success and validation.

swim · 09-26-2007, 09:18 PM

But that's the whole point success is whatever you want it to be. If it wasn't your goal in the first place then it isn't really a success. To me and many people selling tons of records =/= success. Making a good one does.

ProggyMan · 09-26-2007, 10:05 PM

Personally I'd take the millions over a slight feeling of satisfaction...

**sleepy jack** · 09-26-2007, 10:25 PM

Well to some people being creative and having fun is more than just a slight sense of satisfaction. If every band held your attitude music would be composed entirely of pop crap.

ProggyMan · 09-26-2007, 10:33 PM

Considering the number of great mainstream bands...Not currently(There are quite a few though), I would say it's possible. Like I said there are a lot of bands which just don't make the type of music big labels are looking for, and won't because they just plain can't.

**sleepy jack** · 09-26-2007, 10:36 PM

So basically what you're saying is indie music can be summed up in two categories.

1. Bands that want to be Maroon 5
2. Bands that aren't talented enough to be Maroon 5

ProggyMan · 09-26-2007, 10:53 PM

1. I'm using Maroon 5 as an example.
2. I'm not saying they aren't as talented(Although Adam Levine is a great hook writer), they just don't have the right sound.

**sleepy jack** · 09-26-2007, 10:57 PM

Okay then, let me fix it.

So basically what you're saying is indie music can be summed up in two categories.

1. Bands that want to be a pop band
2. Bands that aren't talented enough to be a pop band

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09-26-2007, 08:24 PM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,950	I"m not saying there aren't tons of bands that put creative freedom over a few bucks, but I doubt there are any who wouldn't trade in their indie respect for Maroon 5 level success. See what I'm saying? __________________ Haven't laughed this hard in a long time I better stop now before I start crying Go off to sleep in the sunshine I don't want to see the day when it's dying She's a sight to see She's good to me But I'm already somebody's baby She's a pretty thing And she knows everything But I'm already somebody's baby You don't deserve to be lonely But those drugs you've got won't make you feel better -Elliott Smith

09-26-2007, 08:26 PM
swim I'm still your f4g Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,553	Because success is measured in the amount of people who listen to you? __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

09-26-2007, 09:18 PM
swim I'm still your f4g Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,553	But that's the whole point success is whatever you want it to be. If it wasn't your goal in the first place then it isn't really a success. To me and many people selling tons of records =/= success. Making a good one does. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

09-26-2007, 10:05 PM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,950	Personally I'd take the millions over a slight feeling of satisfaction... __________________ Haven't laughed this hard in a long time I better stop now before I start crying Go off to sleep in the sunshine I don't want to see the day when it's dying She's a sight to see She's good to me But I'm already somebody's baby She's a pretty thing And she knows everything But I'm already somebody's baby You don't deserve to be lonely But those drugs you've got won't make you feel better -Elliott Smith

09-26-2007, 10:25 PM
sleepy jack thom yorke disciple Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17,807	Well to some people being creative and having fun is more than just a slight sense of satisfaction. If every band held your attitude music would be composed entirely of pop crap. __________________ I sit in my house for days on end and stare at the roses in the closet.

09-26-2007, 10:33 PM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,950	Considering the number of great mainstream bands...Not currently(There are quite a few though), I would say it's possible. Like I said there are a lot of bands which just don't make the type of music big labels are looking for, and won't because they just plain can't. __________________ Haven't laughed this hard in a long time I better stop now before I start crying Go off to sleep in the sunshine I don't want to see the day when it's dying She's a sight to see She's good to me But I'm already somebody's baby She's a pretty thing And she knows everything But I'm already somebody's baby You don't deserve to be lonely But those drugs you've got won't make you feel better -Elliott Smith

09-26-2007, 10:36 PM
sleepy jack thom yorke disciple Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17,807	So basically what you're saying is indie music can be summed up in two categories. 1. Bands that want to be Maroon 5 2. Bands that aren't talented enough to be Maroon 5 __________________ I sit in my house for days on end and stare at the roses in the closet.

09-26-2007, 10:53 PM
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,950	1. I'm using Maroon 5 as an example. 2. I'm not saying they aren't as talented(Although Adam Levine is a great hook writer), they just don't have the right sound. __________________ Haven't laughed this hard in a long time I better stop now before I start crying Go off to sleep in the sunshine I don't want to see the day when it's dying She's a sight to see She's good to me But I'm already somebody's baby She's a pretty thing And she knows everything But I'm already somebody's baby You don't deserve to be lonely But those drugs you've got won't make you feel better -Elliott Smith

09-26-2007, 10:57 PM
sleepy jack thom yorke disciple Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17,807	Okay then, let me fix it. So basically what you're saying is indie music can be summed up in two categories. 1. Bands that want to be a pop band 2. Bands that aren't talented enough to be a pop band __________________ I sit in my house for days on end and stare at the roses in the closet.