my fave indie bands some are alt bands too (soundtrack, rock)

Expletive Deleted · 10-02-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by beardovstars

expletive...heard a bit of that m83 disc..thought it sounded pretty cool..is it on your recommends list as well as your ipod?

Yep, it's amazing. One of my favorites of this year.

adidasss · 10-03-2005, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

Oh please. Stop trying to turn this into some Snob vs. Non-Snob thing, or trying to make me into some close-minded elitist who hates everything that isn't on some one-band record label out of Bum****ville, Arkansas.

You know full well what I mean when I say bands that the NME hypes. 10 years from now do you think anybody will remember Razorlight? Kasabian? The Futureheads?

No. And that's what seperates the good from the bad when it comes to the NME. They try so hard to be the magazine that broke the next big thing, that they'll put any band with a record deal on the cover if they think they're it.

Obviously, the NME is sometimes correct in naming good bands, but as I stated in another thread where you hounded me for this, a good portion of the bands are utter ****.

i "hounded" you for it and was annoyed by you because you dissmissed the mere idea that the kooks could be a decent band simply because nme might have written about them, which is rediculous, i agree that they have hits and misses as far as new bands are concerened, but the fact is that they try to promote new music and discover new bands and therefore they are a good way to get to know some new music, if you don't like it ok, no biggy, but don't dismiss it just because nme says they're good, because the band you missed like that could be as good as franz ferdinand ( which, if i'm not mistaken, you like)...

funkymonkey · 10-03-2005, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

You can be blues rock and still be indie, seeing as how indie isn't a genre. And...

Doves = Major label
Jet = Major label
White stripes = Major label
The coral = Major label
Maximo Park = Indie label
Simian = Major label
Franz Ferdinand = Major label
Razorlight = Major label
Death Cab for cutie = Major label
Kings of Leon = Major label
The cribs = Major label
Bloc party = Major label
The futureheads = Major label
Kaiser Chiefs = Major labe
Rooney = Major label
The strokes = Major label
The Zutons = Major label
The Dead 60's = Major label
The Libertines = Indie label

Do you see now why I would call those bands "pseudo-indie NME tripe?" Almost all are signed to a major label or a subsidiary of a major label, almost all are written about by the NME, and almost all are bad.

So you class your bands by what label they are signed by? That's rediculous. I really don't pay attention to a label, I listen and judge what I hear.

However I do agree signing to a major label can cause a change in the music, Death cab for cutie now on a major label for their latest album plans and the music doesn't quite the same, almost as if they are aiming for a wide audience.

DontRunMeOver · 10-03-2005, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

You can be blues rock and still be indie, seeing as how indie isn't a genre. And...

Doves = Major label
Jet = Major label
White stripes = Major label
The coral = Major label
Maximo Park = Indie label
Simian = Major label
Franz Ferdinand = Major label
Razorlight = Major label
Death Cab for cutie = Major label
Kings of Leon = Major label
The cribs = Major label
Bloc party = Major label
The futureheads = Major label
Kaiser Chiefs = Major labe
Rooney = Major label
The strokes = Major label
The Zutons = Major label
The Dead 60's = Major label
The Libertines = Indie label

Do you see now why I would call those bands "pseudo-indie NME tripe?" Almost all are signed to a major label or a subsidiary of a major label, almost all are written about by the NME, and almost all are bad.

Now Mr. Deleted, to hold this kind of opinion I expect you see music as a cultural, intellectual and philosophical phenomenon, rather than an audiological one. While I won't disagree that the bands you have listed as your favourites are also pretty good I have to say that there's something vaguely sinister to me about anybody who doesn't like any one band from The White Stripes, Razorlight, Kaiser Chiefs, Franz Ferdinand, Jet and The Coral. Seriously, I don't understand how anybody can dislike ALL of these bands.

What's going on? If you could explain in a way which involves talking about the music directly, rather than just referencing magazines, scenes and labels then I'd appreciate it greatly.

Expletive Deleted · 10-03-2005, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by funkymonkey

So you class your bands by what label they are signed by? That's rediculous. I really don't pay attention to a label, I listen and judge what I hear.

However I do agree signing to a major label can cause a change in the music, Death cab for cutie now on a major label for their latest album plans and the music doesn't quite the same, almost as if they are aiming for a wide audience.

No, I was telling you why those bands weren't indie. To both you and the guy above me, out of those bands I like...

Doves
Franz Ferdinand
The Strokes
The Libertines
Death Cab For Cutie

[Most] of the rest I find boring, derivative, and generic (to be fair, that description could also fit Franz and The Strokes).

I've never heard a song by Simian, and I don't care either way about The White Stripes.

funkymonkey · 10-03-2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

No, I was telling you why those bands weren't indie. To both you and the guy above me, out of those bands I like...

Doves
Franz Ferdinand
The Strokes
The Libertines
Death Cab For Cutie

[Most] of the rest I find boring, derivative, and generic (to be fair, that description could also fit Franz and The Strokes).

I've never heard a song by Simian, and I don't care either way about The White Stripes.

I would still class the bands I listed as Indie, I'm going off the indie scene in my area, you will hear a lot about all of those bands.

White stripes are probably my favourite band at the moment, very original sound

I still don't really get the whole arguement over NME writing about a band, If I do read NME, it doesn't decide what I like and what I don't like though! NME is always saying a band will be the next big thing, probably not likely but I think what is more likely is 1 or maybe 2 songs from a band will be remembered. It isn't often you get any band which is remembered a decade later.

Stu · 10-12-2005, 02:29 AM

radiohead
BRMC
british sea power
M83
the libertines
the warlocks
mystery jets
godspeed...
louis XIV
duke raoul
testicicles
xiu xiu
the arctic monkeys
the edmund fitzgerald saga
grandaddy
the veils
the martini henry rifles.

that's basically the "indie" im listening to at the moment.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 10-12-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

You can be blues rock and still be indie, seeing as how indie isn't a genre. And...
White stripes = Major label
Franz Ferdinand = Major label
Do you see now why I would call those bands "pseudo-indie NME tripe?" Almost all are signed to a major label or a subsidiary of a major label, almost all are written about by the NME, and almost all are bad.

The White Stripes were signed to Sympathy For The Record Industry when White Blood Cells became a hit , so they went a major label , so what? ... so do lots of bands.

Franz Ferdinand are signed to Domino records who are distributed by Rough Trade , thats about as indie as you can get.

Expletive Deleted · 10-12-2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

The White Stripes were signed to Sympathy For The Record Industry when White Blood Cells became a hit , so they went a major label , so what? ... so do lots of bands.

Franz Ferdinand are signed to Domino records who are distributed by Rough Trade , thats about as indie as you can get.

Franz are distributed by Sony here in the US. And you can't really continue to be an "indie" band when you're signed to a major label, especially when you're a band as famous as the White Stripes. I'm not calling them sell-outs or anything, some great bands are signed to majors, I'm just saying that they're not really indie in a purist sense.

TheBig3KilledMyRainDog · 10-12-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by McrRocker14

liz phair

Maybe once upon a time. Once you have song wirtten by The Matrix, you are no longer independant.

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10-12-2005, 02:29 AM
Stu Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 3,157	radiohead BRMC british sea power M83 the libertines the warlocks mystery jets godspeed... louis XIV duke raoul testicicles xiu xiu the arctic monkeys the edmund fitzgerald saga grandaddy the veils the martini henry rifles. that's basically the "indie" im listening to at the moment.