RnB has been stolen!!!! (blues, funk, jazz, pop, genre)

Frances · 05-02-2006, 09:56 AM

I just hate how crappy new poppy harmony bands are called RnB.
I thought this name was for BB King and Muddy Waters and actual Blues bands. Why don't they call it RnH for Rhythm & Harmony or they could just call it crap. Anyway it just drives me crazy.

stakeraiser · 05-08-2006, 10:39 AM

I hear ya, new R & B just doesn't have the soul of the past

**right-track** · 05-08-2006, 12:34 PM

^ This I can't believe. Two new members that know the real definition of R&B.

R&B was lost, not so much stolen. The crap that passes under the banner of Rhythm and Blues today is laughable.

hiu · 05-08-2006, 02:05 PM

Rhythm and Blues had it's origins in Blues music but also in funk, soul, jazz and not to mention pop music, which R&B always was. Personally I see the current direction of R&B to be as one would expect and it's not really a bad thing if you actually listen to certain artists.

**right-track** · 05-08-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiu

Rhythm and Blues had it's origins in Blues music but also in funk, soul, jazz and not to mention pop music, which R&B always was. Personally I see the current direction of R&B to be as one would expect and it's not really a bad thing if you actually listen to certain artists.

I agree it's not all bad, some of the 'Modern Soul' holds the 60's tradition well.
Gnarls Barkley for example.
It's the warbling deva's that bug me.

swim · 05-08-2006, 07:07 PM

Old was way better but i think you can take any genre and find good new stuff, to say it's all horrible is just wrong.

**Urban Hatemonger** · 05-08-2006, 07:49 PM

It`s still there , you just gotta look for it

*plugs Martina Topley Bird for the 7 millionth time*

~~thehelp~~ · 07-20-2006, 02:52 AM

R&B these days is more like Pop.. Nothing more.

MartB · 07-24-2006, 05:29 PM

So who are the modern RnB artistes to carry on the work of BB King and Muddy Waters

Whirlwind Disaster · 10-25-2006, 01:49 PM

No. Though Rythmn and Blues is influenced heavily by blues, it wasnt blues. Jazz and Gospel were also huge influences and it became an amalgimation of the three. Son House, B.B King etc were 12 Bar Blues artists. they had no back beat unlike R'nB. Bands such as the Yrdbirds and Rolling Stones were thought of as early R'n'B with contemporary artist like Sly and the Family Stone creating a new contemporary form by bringing in a psychedelic influence. I think R'n'B acts today have just moved on with the times and technological developments. Every Genre evolves over time - this is no different. Just for the record, i hate new R'n'B... but then ive never been keen on old R'n'B either.

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05-02-2006, 09:56 AM
Frances Bitchfarmer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Between the minarettes, down the Casbah way. Posts: 1,015	RnB has been stolen!!!! I just hate how crappy new poppy harmony bands are called RnB. I thought this name was for BB King and Muddy Waters and actual Blues bands. Why don't they call it RnH for Rhythm & Harmony or they could just call it crap. Anyway it just drives me crazy.

05-08-2006, 10:39 AM
stakeraiser Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: WV Posts: 193	I hear ya, new R & B just doesn't have the soul of the past __________________ http://WWW.FLASHBACKALTERNATIVES.com Playing classic alternative, new wave, punk, etc, taking requests all day

05-08-2006, 12:34 PM
right-track Avin' It! Join Date: May 2005 Location: THE PEOPLES ЯEPUBLIK ФF MAИCUИIA Posts: 5,287	^ This I can't believe. Two new members that know the real definition of R&B. R&B was lost, not so much stolen. The crap that passes under the banner of Rhythm and Blues today is laughable. __________________ Choose Liverpool. Choose the dole queue. Choose to scam disability benefit. Choose mind-numbing, grinding efficiency over flair. Choose Torben Piechnik, Istvan Kozma and Paul Stewart. Choose not to win a single league title since the backpass rule was implemented. Choose penalties. Choose car stereos, hubcaps and stanley knives. Choose to trade on your proud sense of tradition and then not lift a finger in protest when two American billionaires who don't even know the name of your club decide to buy it. Choose to win the European Cup whilst only having to play seven matches. Choose to bask in a perpetual, sickening, media love-in. Choose celebrities who ** off out of your city as soon as they have earned the money to do so and then spend the rest of their lives harping on about how wonderful it is. Choose to sing about Munich until confronted with your own tragedy. Choose to end it all in an orgy of self pity, just another excuse to perpetuate the grief culture spawned by your selfish, insular **ed-up excuse for a city. Choose your future. Choose Scouse.

05-08-2006, 02:05 PM
hiu Music Guru Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,167	Rhythm and Blues had it's origins in Blues music but also in funk, soul, jazz and not to mention pop music, which R&B always was. Personally I see the current direction of R&B to be as one would expect and it's not really a bad thing if you actually listen to certain artists.

05-08-2006, 07:07 PM
swim Everyone Does Everything. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,483	Old was way better but i think you can take any genre and find good new stuff, to say it's all horrible is just wrong. __________________ Whatever it is you think you are, you're not a good friend, unique, well read, good looking or smart. Now you know.

07-20-2006, 02:52 AM
~~thehelp~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15	Pop Corn R&B these days is more like Pop.. Nothing more.

07-24-2006, 05:29 PM
MartB Groupie Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1	RnB So who are the modern RnB artistes to carry on the work of BB King and Muddy Waters

10-25-2006, 01:49 PM
Whirlwind Disaster Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: LahnDahn Posts: 56	No. Though Rythmn and Blues is influenced heavily by blues, it wasnt blues. Jazz and Gospel were also huge influences and it became an amalgimation of the three. Son House, B.B King etc were 12 Bar Blues artists. they had no back beat unlike R'nB. Bands such as the Yrdbirds and Rolling Stones were thought of as early R'n'B with contemporary artist like Sly and the Family Stone creating a new contemporary form by bringing in a psychedelic influence. I think R'n'B acts today have just moved on with the times and technological developments. Every Genre evolves over time - this is no different. Just for the record, i hate new R'n'B... but then ive never been keen on old R'n'B either. __________________ I just go buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz