Where do I start with the whole genre of Jazz?

TockTockTock · 04-03-2012, 02:54 PM

I'm not so sure Spiritual Unity or Change of the Century would be decent starting points for those wanting to get into jazz... They're relatively experimental.

As far as accessibility is concerned, I would suggest Dave Bruebeck's Time Out and Sonny Rollins' Jazz Colossus. Both are famous jazz albums and both feature interesting and catchy instrumentation.

However... it really just depends on the listener.

AmbientHound · 04-03-2012, 03:43 PM

Haha, true. Now that I think about it, Spiritual Unity is slightly on the adventurous side. That's one of the first jazz records I came into contact however. I just love experimental and avant-garde and such

JGuy Grungeman · 08-16-2016, 11:50 AM

I started with Miles Davis. Kind of Blue is a really easy album to listen to and enjoy.

**Frownland** · 08-16-2016, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

I started with Miles Davis. Kind of Blue is a really easy album to listen to and enjoy.

I love Kind of Blue, it's a late night in a smoke filled lounge and embodies cool, but I'm unsure if that's the best starter album. One reason is that it's very embedded in American culture to the point where it feels like you already know the album inside and out on your first serious listen. Jazz has also changed quite a bit since then and there are plenty of accessible artists that are a little more surprising and exciting (what jazz is all about imo) than Kind of Blue.

I'd show a first timer something like this and show them Kind of Blue further down the line.

http://youtu.be/xERcI8jGfe8
Endangered Blood - Plunge

Or this

http://youtu.be/1QViAZa41bk
Lounge Lizards - Voice of Chunk

JGuy Grungeman · 08-17-2016, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I love Kind of Blue, it's a late night in a smoke filled lounge and embodies cool, but I'm unsure if that's the best starter album. One reason is that it's very embedded in American culture to the point where it feels like you already know the album inside and out on your first serious listen. Jazz has also changed quite a bit since then and there are plenty of accessible artists that are a little more surprising and exciting (what jazz is all about imo) than Kind of Blue.

But wouldn't that make it all the more reason to be a starter album if it's something you can get into easily? Why start with something you're not into or used to? The more exciting styuff may not appease as easily if the exciting stuff that the person's not used to is his start.

**Frownland** · 08-17-2016, 02:39 PM

Because they're both undeniably great and accessible and funky and fun. Duh.

JGuy Grungeman · 08-17-2016, 02:47 PM

I don't know about you, but I loved Kind of Blue and A Love Supreme on my first try. And unless you count Aja, those were my first two jazz albums.

But I totally agree that they are funky and fun. But I think the Lou8nge Lizards vid is a little too... avant-garde for a starter album. Still, I think one should stick with what they're used to before going in. It's like me and tomatoes. I used to hate them. But when I starterd loving them in burgers, and then other things, I ended up liking them alone. It might be a slow process, but it does work. Forgive me. I just find jumping into the struff that's new to you a little risky.

San Antone · 03-14-2022, 09:03 PM

I'd suggest

Jelly Roll Morton - Jelly Roll Morton and His Red Hot Peppers
Louis Armstrong - Hot Five and Hot Seven Recordings
Sidney Bechet - The Essential
Duke Ellington - Never No Lament: The Blanton-Webster Band
Count Basie - The Columbia, Okeh and Vocalion Sessions with Lester Young
Billie Holiday - The Complete Commodore/Decca Masters
Thelonious Monk - Complete Riverside
Nat King Cole - Complete Capitol Recordings of the Trio
Charlie Parker - Complete Savoy and Dial Master Takes
Charles Mingus - Passions of a Man: Complete Atlantic Recordings (1956-1961)
John Coltrane - Heavyweight Champion / The Classic Quartet on Impulse!
Miles Davis - Chronicles: Complete Prestige Recordings / Complete Miles Featuring Coltrane / Complete Columbia 1965-1968
Sonny Rollins - Complete Prestige
Clifford Brown - Brownie: Complete EmArcy
Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil / Schizphrenia
Joe Henderson - In "n" Out / Mode for Joe
Lee Morgan - Sidewinder / The Cooker
Wynton Marsalis - In This House, On This Morning

This should get you started.

mycatisthebest · 06-23-2022, 08:14 PM

Maybe you would want to start with some swing, then bebop, and then the rest, which is a lot of really GOOD stuff!. Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, and beyond.

Ayn Marx · 06-26-2022, 05:50 PM

How about easing youself in at this end :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_AF4eL7_TQ

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TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	I'm not so sure Spiritual Unity or Change of the Century would be decent starting points for those wanting to get into jazz... They're relatively experimental. As far as accessibility is concerned, I would suggest Dave Bruebeck's Time Out and Sonny Rollins' Jazz Colossus. Both are famous jazz albums and both feature interesting and catchy instrumentation. However... it really just depends on the listener.

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AmbientHound Groupie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Ultraworld, Germany Posts: 18	Haha, true. Now that I think about it, Spiritual Unity is slightly on the adventurous side. That's one of the first jazz records I came into contact however. I just love experimental and avant-garde and such

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San Antone Groupie Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Tennessee Posts: 14	I'd suggest Jelly Roll Morton - Jelly Roll Morton and His Red Hot Peppers Louis Armstrong - Hot Five and Hot Seven Recordings Sidney Bechet - The Essential Duke Ellington - Never No Lament: The Blanton-Webster Band Count Basie - The Columbia, Okeh and Vocalion Sessions with Lester Young Billie Holiday - The Complete Commodore/Decca Masters Thelonious Monk - Complete Riverside Nat King Cole - Complete Capitol Recordings of the Trio Charlie Parker - Complete Savoy and Dial Master Takes Charles Mingus - Passions of a Man: Complete Atlantic Recordings (1956-1961) John Coltrane - Heavyweight Champion / The Classic Quartet on Impulse! Miles Davis - Chronicles: Complete Prestige Recordings / Complete Miles Featuring Coltrane / Complete Columbia 1965-1968 Sonny Rollins - Complete Prestige Clifford Brown - Brownie: Complete EmArcy Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil / Schizphrenia Joe Henderson - In "n" Out / Mode for Joe Lee Morgan - Sidewinder / The Cooker Wynton Marsalis - In This House, On This Morning This should get you started.

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mycatisthebest Groupie Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 21	Maybe you would want to start with some swing, then bebop, and then the rest, which is a lot of really GOOD stuff!. Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, and beyond.

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Ayn Marx Music Addict Join Date: May 2022 Location: Sometimes Posts: 556	How about easing youself in at this end :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_AF4eL7_TQ