Gil Scott Heron (lyrics, jazz, rap, American, rapper)

**right-track** · 06-20-2005, 04:13 PM

Can't believe that I could'nt find a thread about Gil Scott Heron!!!
Does anyone here have an interest in this incredible man?
A poet, writer, composer...
His works include; The Revolution Will Not Be Televised/Whitey On The Moon and my favourite, The Bottle.
Any veiws ?

adidasss · 06-20-2005, 05:28 PM

i know he got mentioned by lcd soundsystem in "i'm losing my edge"....can you describe his music?

**right-track** · 06-20-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

i know he got mentioned by lcd soundsystem in "i'm losing my edge"....can you describe his music?

His music can be described as Jazz/soul, at least with The Bottle.
His early stuff like The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - kinda like Beat Poetry. His Poetry to music earned him the title, The Godfather of Rap and modern rappers today recognise him as such, although Gil Scott Heron would like to see black rappers use their lyrics in a more positive way, which he expresses in his, Message To The Messenger.
His material was political and he also dealt with hard issues such as drug abuse,alcholism and the plight of black Americans.
Check out Whitey On The Moon Adidasss, got a feeling you would be interested!

SATCHMO · 06-20-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Can't believe that I could'nt find a thread about Gil Scott Heron!!!
Does anyone here have an interest in this incredible man?
A poet, writer, composer...
His works include; The Revolution Will Not Be Televised/Whitey On The Moon and my favourite, The Bottle.
Any veiws ?

Gil scott Heron Is a fantastic musician, but I'm not surprised no ones started a thread on him. The Jazz forum is a graveyard on this message board. Feel free to bring it back to life, as there seems to be a slow but steady trickling of jazz buffs coming into this forum lately.

adidasss · 06-21-2005, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track

His music can be described as Jazz/soul, at least with The Bottle.
His early stuff like The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - kinda like Beat Poetry. His Poetry to music earned him the title, The Godfather of Rap and modern rappers today recognise him as such, although Gil Scott Heron would like to see black rappers use their lyrics in a more positive way, which he expresses in his, Message To The Messenger.
His material was political and he also dealt with hard issues such as drug abuse,alcholism and the plight of black Americans.
Check out Whitey On The Moon Adidasss, got a feeling you would be interested!

downloaded it....you're right it is beat poetry....great poem though....if only the rapers today would write lyrics like that instead of "i'll take you to the candy shop, i'll let you lick the lollypop, keep going till you hit the spot..."...*sigh*

**right-track** · 06-21-2005, 03:57 PM

Thanks for looking it up man- respect.

adidasss · 06-21-2005, 04:04 PM

while we're on the subject of beat poetry, i watched a movie about miguel pinero....also fascinating poems....and a tragic life....

jrod · 08-16-2005, 02:10 PM

Gil is my favorite and was ahead of his time in the things he educated us about through his form of Rap at that time. I think its another cat you should checkout called Kulwata at http:www.kulwata.com I believe I read some where Gil is his favorite artist. check it out and tell me what you think. NEW SOUND IN BLUES

**right-track** · 08-18-2005, 02:47 PM

Tried the thread jrod but could 'nt get past the home page.
Gil is way ahead of his time and in many different ways.
Personally I prefer his jazz/funk/soul stuff. The Bottle being one of my all time favourite tracks by anyone.
Im not a big admirer of rap, but the lyrical content of his "form of rap" can only be described as poetic. Great man.

matious · 05-21-2007, 05:11 PM

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06-20-2005, 04:13 PM
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06-21-2005, 03:57 PM
right-track Avin' It! Join Date: May 2005 Location: THE PEOPLES ЯEPUBLIK ФF MAИCUИIA Posts: 5,045	Thanks for looking it up man- respect. __________________ Choose Liverpool. Choose the dole queue. Choose to scam disability benefit. Choose mind-numbing, grinding efficiency over flair. Choose Torben Piechnik, Istvan Kozma and Paul Stewart. Choose not to win a single league title since the backpass rule was implemented. Choose penalties. Choose car stereos, hubcaps and stanley knives. Choose to trade on your proud sense of tradition and then not lift a finger in protest when two American billionaires who don't even know the name of your club decide to buy it. Choose to win the European Cup whilst only having to play seven matches. Choose to bask in a perpetual, sickening, media love-in. Choose celebrities who ** off out of your city as soon as they have earned the money to do so and then spend the rest of their lives harping on about how wonderful it is. Choose to sing about Munich until confronted with your own tragedy. Choose to end it all in an orgy of self pity, just another excuse to perpetuate the grief culture spawned by your selfish, insular **ed-up excuse for a city. Choose your future. Choose Scouse.

06-21-2005, 04:04 PM
adidasss deadbeat Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,499	while we're on the subject of beat poetry, i watched a movie about miguel pinero....also fascinating poems....and a tragic life.... __________________

08-16-2005, 02:10 PM
jrod Groupie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5	Gil is my favorite and was ahead of his time in the things he educated us about through his form of Rap at that time. I think its another cat you should checkout called Kulwata at http:www.kulwata.com I believe I read some where Gil is his favorite artist. check it out and tell me what you think. NEW SOUND IN BLUES

08-18-2005, 02:47 PM
right-track Avin' It! Join Date: May 2005 Location: THE PEOPLES ЯEPUBLIK ФF MAИCUИIA Posts: 5,045	Tried the thread jrod but could 'nt get past the home page. Gil is way ahead of his time and in many different ways. Personally I prefer his jazz/funk/soul stuff. The Bottle being one of my all time favourite tracks by anyone. Im not a big admirer of rap, but the lyrical content of his "form of rap" can only be described as poetic. Great man. __________________ Choose Liverpool. Choose the dole queue. Choose to scam disability benefit. Choose mind-numbing, grinding efficiency over flair. Choose Torben Piechnik, Istvan Kozma and Paul Stewart. Choose not to win a single league title since the backpass rule was implemented. Choose penalties. Choose car stereos, hubcaps and stanley knives. Choose to trade on your proud sense of tradition and then not lift a finger in protest when two American billionaires who don't even know the name of your club decide to buy it. Choose to win the European Cup whilst only having to play seven matches. Choose to bask in a perpetual, sickening, media love-in. Choose celebrities who ** off out of your city as soon as they have earned the money to do so and then spend the rest of their lives harping on about how wonderful it is. Choose to sing about Munich until confronted with your own tragedy. Choose to end it all in an orgy of self pity, just another excuse to perpetuate the grief culture spawned by your selfish, insular **ed-up excuse for a city. Choose your future. Choose Scouse.

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