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Old 01-04-2006, 08:57 PM  
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Why would I put my "faith" is something I "hope" exists,
when I can put my trust into something I "know" exists?
Isn't the whole idea behind faith not having to hope something exists, but because you believe it is real?
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Why would I put my "faith" is something I "hope" exists,
when I can put my trust into something I "know" exists?
I wasn't expecting you to understand.

Maybe RAR does.
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:00 PM  
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Oh. I must be too stupid to understand. Cause only smart people can understand this

"So God said "let there be light light" and there was light"

That is just so complex when compared to the scientific explaination of light.
Come on, give me a break
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Because I believe something that is not tangible doesn't make me ignorant.

And faith cannot have tangible proof. It defeats the purpose of said faith. People who have faith only need said faith. It's a very personal connection and trying to share why you need no proof to believe something can make you sound very ignorant, which is why I don't say things like that.

but I understand Vanilla. No worries.
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"So God said "let there be light light" and there was light"

That is just so complex when compared to the scientific explaination of light.
Come on, give me a break
and what is this scientific explination?
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When something is forced onto you from a young age and enforced by almost everyone you ever talk to, of course a belief like that is going to become something more than a belief. When it becomes so deeply ingrained in your mind it's very hard to even consider any alternatives. Not to mention the fact that the alternative isn't very pretty - religion gives a sense of importance and meaning whereas many see atheism as nihilistic and bleak.

But it's still incredibly naive not to ever question its origins or whether the logic behind it really makes sense.

Oh, and I haven't taken Physics yet or anything, but I'm pretty sure light is the result of electrons dropping in energy thus releasing energy in the form of photons, or light. There's more to it than that, I'm sure, but I don't really feel like going in-depth.
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Why would I put my "faith" is something I "hope" exists,
when I can put my trust into something I "know" exists?
My sentiments exactly
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Oh. I must be too stupid to understand. Cause only smart people can understand this

"So God said "let there be light light" and there was light"

That is just so complex when compared to the scientific explaination of light.
Come on, give me a break
You must think you're too stupid, but I think that you have a really negative attitude towards all religions. From that comment above you have already over-reacted, so how can I expect you to understand the way Christians feel about their faith. I wasn't trying to attack you.
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Well if you believe in God and Jesus, and you have the bible, you don't need any more proof. That's the point in having faith.
That's about as silly as saying if you believe in santa claus and have a book about him you don't need any further proof he exists.

I don't buy into that for a second
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Because I believe something that is not tangible doesn't make me ignorant.

And faith cannot have tangible proof. It defeats the purpose of said faith. People who have faith only need said faith. It's a very personal connection and trying to share why you need no proof to believe something can make you sound very ignorant, which is why I don't say things like that.

but I understand Vanilla. No worries.
Thank you! Of course you are right, and there is proof, but you have to open your eyes (and mind) to be able to see it.
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