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Old 02-03-2007, 09:40 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Definiton: 'Free will, lack their of' The ability to blame mishaps and accidents on individuals like on a higher power, the cosmos, or on the area of which we inhabit. Refer also to 'Karma' Blaming rotten luck on your own inadequacies as a human being, e.g. 'If I had treated subject A better, my relationship would be smooth'
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:46 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Science is constant. We're made elements and compounds and life is just a series of chemical reactions.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:42 AM   #73 (permalink)
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. And in that respect I believe that even if it is somehow inevitable that a particular person will commit a crime due to their nature and circumstances, they should still be held responsible as it was they who committed the crime*. Further to that I have a lot of thoughts but so many I can't actually figure out which order to write them in!


*There would be a few exceptions to this, although I personally would still count anybody who commits murder, rape or serious violent crime while suffering a mental illness inherent to themselves as being just as accountable as a completely sane person.

I have to disagree in a sense with your exceptions. I do believe that in court the constant plead of insanity by the accused is often false. However, when a person has a mental illness they suffer auditory hallicuinations and they are not the kind of drug induced halliucinations where you know it is comming from some outside source. The auditory halliucinations are your thoughts, its hard to explain, I have a hard enough time grasping the concept honestly. But basically, I don't believe people who are unknowing or medicated for a mental illness should be held responsible, because they were not themselves.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:44 AM   #74 (permalink)
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6 X 9 = 42

End of argument.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:47 AM   #75 (permalink)
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No. Not end of argument. No ones jumping down anyone's throat, surprisingly, and I want to know what people think.


As for punishment for actions. Of course it's necessary or the behavoir won't change but I think the way that governments approach it is wrong.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:49 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Science is constant. We're made elements and compounds and life is just a series of chemical reactions.
I might have totally misunderstood your statement, but I was under the impression that science is constantly changing. Also, I was not aware that we made the elements, we labeled them, but we did not make them. We probably created some compounds, but not all of them. Life is a series of chemical reactions, but it's also a plethora of other random things.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:56 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Er. I didn't mean science as in what we know. I meant in all the principles that exist whether we know them or not. Which isn't best described as science. I don't know exactly what that's called. I made a typo. Was suppose to be "made of elements".
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:31 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Theoretical Science?

What does it have to do with free will though?
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:52 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Free will... Hmmmmm

I think that we have control over our own lives. There's something about saying "I was fated to do this/whatever" that to me sounds like a cop out, as if the person won't claim responsibility for his or her own actions
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:53 AM   #80 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what I was on about. Reactions are constant and everything in it's simplest most picked apart form is a chemical reaction.


It's hardly a cop out. No one's saying anything about freedom from consequences because what they do really isn't up to them.
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