Kurt_Cobain

Definiton: 'Free will, lack their of' The ability to blame mishaps and accidents on individuals like on a higher power, the cosmos, or on the area of which we inhabit. Refer also to 'Karma' Blaming rotten luck on your own inadequacies as a human being, e.g. 'If I had treated subject A better, my relationship would be smooth'

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swim

Science is constant. We're made elements and compounds and life is just a series of chemical reactions.

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Kevorkian Logic

I have to disagree in a sense with your exceptions. I do believe that in court the constant plead of insanity by the accused is often false. However, when a person has a mental illness they suffer auditory hallicuinations and they are not the kind of drug induced halliucinations where you know it is comming from some outside source. The auditory halliucinations are your thoughts, its hard to explain, I have a hard enough time grasping the concept honestly. But basically, I don't believe people who are unknowing or medicated for a mental illness should be held responsible, because they were not themselves.

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MoonlitSunshine

6 X 9 = 42

End of argument.

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swim

No. Not end of argument. No ones jumping down anyone's throat, surprisingly, and I want to know what people think.


As for punishment for actions. Of course it's necessary or the behavoir won't change but I think the way that governments approach it is wrong.

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Kevorkian Logic

I might have totally misunderstood your statement, but I was under the impression that science is constantly changing. Also, I was not aware that we made the elements, we labeled them, but we did not make them. We probably created some compounds, but not all of them. Life is a series of chemical reactions, but it's also a plethora of other random things.

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swim

Er. I didn't mean science as in what we know. I meant in all the principles that exist whether we know them or not. Which isn't best described as science. I don't know exactly what that's called. I made a typo. Was suppose to be "made of elements".

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Kevorkian Logic

Theoretical Science?

What does it have to do with free will though?

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MoonlitSunshine

Free will... Hmmmmm

I think that we have control over our own lives. There's something about saying "I was fated to do this/whatever" that to me sounds like a cop out, as if the person won't claim responsibility for his or her own actions

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swim

I'm not sure what I was on about. Reactions are constant and everything in it's simplest most picked apart form is a chemical reaction.


It's hardly a cop out. No one's saying anything about freedom from consequences because what they do really isn't up to them.

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