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Old 11-28-2011, 06:00 PM   #441 (permalink)
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I wish trains weren't such a goddamn novelty across the pond.

We were doing pretty good until 1910 or so when America collectively said, "nah, fuck that shit."
What are you talking about? I grew up in an area that essentially runs on trains, I never had to drive anywhere when I lived in the city and even if I wanted to get to surrounding suburbs there were trains to take me there. There are lots of cities in America with amazing subway and elevated transit systems.
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:00 PM   #442 (permalink)
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:15 PM   #443 (permalink)
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What are you talking about? I grew up in an area that essentially runs on trains, I never had to drive anywhere when I lived in the city and even if I wanted to get to surrounding suburbs there were trains to take me there. There are lots of cities in America with amazing subway and elevated transit systems.
Actually you both make good points. Some urban train/subway systems in the US are indispensable and convenient, even for surrounding suburbs.

On the other hand, convenient and efficient cross country travel on a train in the US is a joke compared to the systems in Europe.
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I still would want to know what it's like to live in an English village
We would probably seem very quaint to the European visitor. We've still got a very old milk cart which delivers all sorts of things to our houses, the roads are cobbled in some places, the houses are all built out of sandstone and milstone grit but yet the trains are electric. Explain?
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:09 PM   #445 (permalink)
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I just talked to someone who lived in England for a year, some time back.
He thinks it's awful. The english themselves are allright, except that they do everything in 'groups'. The the country seems like a third world country. Everything is broken .

That's what he said, at least.
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What are you talking about? I grew up in an area that essentially runs on trains, I never had to drive anywhere when I lived in the city and even if I wanted to get to surrounding suburbs there were trains to take me there. There are lots of cities in America with amazing subway and elevated transit systems.
You're an outlier, dude.

Most of middle America doesn't have access to cheap rail systems; the exceptions to that are almost always major cities, and even they don't necessarily have anything going for them. Getting around in LA on public transport is an absolute nightmare.
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:23 PM   #447 (permalink)
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I just talked to someone who lived in England for a year, some time back.
He thinks it's awful. The english themselves are allright, except that they do everything in 'groups'. The the country seems like a third world country. Everything is broken .

That's what he said, at least.
Not quite everything is broken! I'm sure in central London they've got themselves a nice little patch of unspoiled land.
"Do everything in 'groups'"? I'm not sure about that. We aren't much more of a country for cliques or circles than any other. In the country, people are generally more friendly and kinder to "foreigners" (except in rich areas), being everyone from outside Cheshire. Certainly we've got some very well attended clubs; the Ritz in Manchester for example.
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I dunno, the guy said you are very much a country for cliques. I'm not sure if he was right, but the guy's 50 now. I think it may have been 25 or 30 years back he lived there.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:59 PM   #449 (permalink)
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I just talked to someone who lived in England for a year, some time back.
He thinks it's awful. The english themselves are allright, except that they do everything in 'groups'. The the country seems like a third world country. Everything is broken .

That's what he said, at least.
lemme guess, he was in a university?
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Dunno! Don't think so, I'll ask later
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